BREAKING: The Second Circuit DENIES Trump's request for a stay of Manhattan DA Vance's subpoena pe

[soothsayer]

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BREAKING: The Second Circuit DENIES Trump’s request for a stay of Manhattan DA Vance’s subpoena pending appeal and schedules arguments for Sept. 1.

Trump previously announced plans to seek a stay from SCOTUS.

Background, @CourthouseNews https://courthousenews.com/judge-green-lights-probe-of-trump-tax-returns-in-ny/…

PissedOffLawyer
@PissedOffLawyer
@KlasfeldReports you've misinterpeted the decision. They did not deny the stay pending appeal; argument on that will be heard Sept 1. They just declined to issue an administrative (sort of automatic, non substantive) stay before hearing argument on why a stay should be issued.


Timmmmay
@Oh_My_Gloob
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Aug 21, 2020
Replying to @KlasfeldReports and @CourthouseNews
What does this mean More delays?

MykonosMom
@mykonosmom
His request for immediate stay was denied, that means production of documents will go forward. There will be a hearing on Sept 1 on the merits of his motion for stay, if granted the production will stop during the Appeals period. If denied production goes forward.

[Wounded Bear]

1. SCOTUS already bounced this back down to the local court...

they're not gonna like Trump asking to review it again.

[still_one]

2. I really hope this is brought up in the debates. What is he hiding?

[gratuitous]

6. Not just what is he hiding

But didn't candidate Trump say over and over again how much he'd just loooove to release his tax returns, but those darn audits were just going on and on. It sort of makes Trump look like a big ol' liar-liar-pants-on-fire.

[still_one]

7. +++

[NightWatcher]

3. September Surprise Mutha. His tomorrow is always going to be worse than his today.

He will be exposed before the Election.

[WyattKansas]

11. The Republican Party is ready to cut him loose and let him fend for himself.

They know the blood in the water is boiling around them after the Democratic Convention and even recognize that Biden is the only adult in the Presidential race. tRUMP is costing them any relevancy for years to come and they are worried about their own privileges being revoked, so the 'protection racket' is collapsing around tRUMP.

[NightWatcher]

13. I've heard this happens painfully abruptly at Labor Day

Stay tuned.

[DonaldsRump]

4. It's so sad, compared to SCOTUS in 1974

In that year, Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski was fed up with Nixon's stalling to hand over his tapes. Jaworski did something highly unusual, requesting the US Supreme Court to uphold District Court Judge John Sirica's order requiring Nixon to hand over the tapes.

By going straight to the US Supreme Court, Jaworski was bypassing the DC Circuit Court of Appeals on the basis that the issue presented in the case was of paramount national importance. As in this case, there was a pending criminal investigation against Nixon's henchmen, and Jaworksi said that fundamental justice required the tapes to be turned over so that the criminal trials could all proceed with the best evidence. Interestingly, Jaworski did NOT base his claim on the pending parallel impeachment inquiry against Nixon by the House Judiciary Committee, since that was not his fight, but that of the House.

The US Supreme Court took the case, which surprised many. Had it denied Jaworski's petition, it would have dealt the Special Prosecution Task Force an enormous blow. However, by actually taking the case, it sped up the end of the horrible time of Watergate and Nixon's resignation within days of the Supreme Court's decision on July 24, 1974 that Nixon had to immediately turn over the tapes and couldn't withhold on the basis of a general claim of executive privilege. It was a huge gamble, but it paid off, as the US institutions like the Attorney General, the Special Prosecutor, the courts, and even Nixon's lawyers and perhaps even Nixon himself operated from a basic sense of the rule of law. That does not apply in any sense of the word to Trump and his crew.

Does anyone think today's SCOTUS would do the same? Does anyone think Trump would comply even if SCOTUS definitively ruled against him, which it will.

SCOTUS appears to be allowing Trump to run out the clock without actually compelling him to turn anything over. I hope I'm wrong, but the SCOTUS' decision this summer allowing Trump to raise additional grounds to withhold effectively allows him to stall, likely past November 3. What should have happened is what the Supreme Court did in 1974: Trump must turn over the required documents "forthwith", meaning immediately.

[mucifer]

8. It's not trump who has to comply, it's the IRS

[DonaldsRump]

9. Isn't it Mazars?

[triron]

18. yes

[MyOwnPeace]

14. The most POWERFUL part of your post:

"It was a huge gamble, but it paid off, as the US institutions like the Attorney General, the Special Prosecutor, the courts, and even Nixon's lawyers and perhaps even Nixon himself operated from a basic sense of the rule of law. That does not apply in any sense of the word to Trump and his crew."

No matter how crooked Nixon and gang were, they KNEW the law and were obliged to follow it when they knew they had no other choice.

BunkerBoy's gang - HA!!!!

[DonaldsRump]

16. Ding ding ding

You get my prize: if SCOTUS really cared, they would have required Trump to turn over the tax returns IMMEDIATELY.

However, they gave Trump a huge out, but allowing him to raise other defenses/privileges to turning the required documentation over. Thus, he can drag out the clock by appealing.

I do not see how any of the material in the Vance case will be released publicly prior to November 3. That plays exactly into Trump's hands.

[In It to Win It]

5. SCOTUS should have really made a final decision on this

Instead of punting back to the lower court

[Ms. Toad]

10. SCOTUS is not permitted to offer advisory opinions.

The issue before the Supreme Court was whether Trump had temporary immunity from prosecution while serving as president. That is the only question the Supreme Court can legally answer.

[Cha]

12. Rt!

[bucolic_frolic]

15. Trump has had a terrible week

It's almost like the Rule of Law is closing ranks as the election nears

[MyOwnPeace]

17. Imagine that........

the LAW meaning something to BunkerBoy.

Now if only it would mean anything to American voters.........