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Americans recoiled in horror after First Lady Melania Trump took to Twitter on Saturday to unveil the newly renovated Rose Garden Saturday ahead of her speech there Tuesday for the Republican National Convention.
Twitter users blasted the first lady for removing about a dozen crabapple trees from the Rose Garden planted by Jackie Kennedy in 1961.
https://thegailygrind.com/2020/08/22/americans-recoil-in-horror-after-melania-rips-trees-planted-by-jfk-out-of-white-house-rose-garden/
Maraya1969
(22,501 posts)them down but you don't cut down damn trees!
So typically destructive of this administration.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Maraya1969
(22,501 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)I hope the trees survive the transplant.
-Laelth
lostnfound
(16,191 posts)Chainfire
(17,644 posts)I watched the process of some 150 year old (Huge) live oak trees being moved where I used to work. It is an expensive process, but there are people who specialize in it, and it is generally, although not always, successful. Crab Apples aren't that big, it shouldn't be a problem.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)I see newly replanted trees that don't make it all the time.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Trees that old are presumably going to be hard to replant.
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)The key is to cut the roots in perimeter around the tree then let the tree sit and recover for a few days before the actual move. Then once moved keeping the soil moist until the tree is able to grow enough new roots to survive.
Still its horrific what Melania did. Its like gutting the China room in the White House and putting in a rec room.
jaxexpat
(6,851 posts)ZZenith
(4,128 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,726 posts)Flowering crab apples start declining at about 40 years and getting to 70 is rare. I'd be surprised if they survive the transplant at this late stage.
former9thward
(32,082 posts)What rule is that???
OnlinePoker
(5,726 posts)With these trees, moving them made no sense. But if arborists determined they were at their end of life and they were taken out, I would have no problem. If this was just done on the whim of Skeletor, I would be as pissed as others here on the board.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,902 posts)Here in Santa Fe an 80 year old Sequoia was relocated just last year.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)I read that from a link to a news article from here, somewhere, today.
-Laelth
July
(4,751 posts)Have you read it somwhere?
If so, we could use a link.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Marcuse
(7,508 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)bag everything they removed in plastic and dump it.
Sorry but not trusting this will be so. It's out of sight out of mind with these people.
Raine
(30,540 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
rustysgurl
(1,040 posts)... they did a better job of relocating these trees than they did of removing and "reallocating" the high speed mail sorters.
iluvtennis
(19,874 posts)DownriverDem
(6,231 posts)I saw where it's because of Melania's wearing of high heels. She won't sink in now.
fwvinson
(488 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
sprinkleeninow
(20,263 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)I bet they would take her back (but only after she gets her big divorce settlement).
-Laelth
sprinkleeninow
(20,263 posts)"Money talks, nobody walks!!"
🤣
Me.
(35,454 posts)His prices were insane!
sprinkleeninow
(20,263 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)She's from Slovenia.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Illumination
(2,458 posts)Everything around her & the other "thing" in the W.H. turns to sh**! Hope the W.H. house is fumigated when they get their sorry as*** OUT! They'll need to spray for bed bugs, golden showers, diseases, you name it & an exorcism!...
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,862 posts)IronLionZion
(45,534 posts)but eventually a Dem can make the garden colorful again. Maybe Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff can work on the garden.
snowybirdie
(5,239 posts)Doug pitching in. Good job for for a Second Gentleman.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,862 posts)to start with. Then replant the trees and tear up all that damn concrete.
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,585 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Afromania
(2,771 posts)This just seems to be pointlessly petty and messed up to me for some reason. Everybody left those trees alone for almost 60 years. Now, with 2 months left before trump is tossed out she goes and uproots the these trees ("which will be planted elsewhere" yea right).
Granted, I didn't know about the trees before this, but mostly nobody did and didn't have to. The inhabitants of the White House knew better than to be quite horrible enough to pull them up. A good number of them were/are plenty horrible on their own merits.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I thought she put in a tennis court, or some such.
Afromania
(2,771 posts)When this is over we'll probably be sort the wreckage out for the next decade.
Mosby
(16,359 posts)with a tennis court.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)spanone
(135,880 posts)lostnfound
(16,191 posts)Or, perhaps trump will have goose stepping nazis marching around the rectangle this week.
Or he is making a place for firing squads.
Would it surprise anyone?
Vdizzle
(383 posts)To symbolize the death of democracy and decency in America.
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)It's called the Rose Garden and it's now completely devoid of color, of joy, of life. Gawd I truly hate these people.
dubyadiprecession
(5,722 posts)Joe will have quite a bit of undoing when he gets in the Whitehouse.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)in 5 months?
Cha
(297,692 posts)UpInArms
(51,284 posts)And has a cemetery out front.
Cha
(297,692 posts)UpInArms
(51,284 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)town!
JudyM
(29,279 posts)GB_RN
(2,384 posts)Based on her reactions to Dolt and how she isolates herself away from him, it sounds like an apt description for what I imagine her marriage to the Vulgar Talking Yam is like.
pazzyanne
(6,557 posts)msongs
(67,443 posts)IronLionZion
(45,534 posts)Cha
(297,692 posts)CapnSteve
(219 posts)...from colorful to white? Melanoma, your white supremacy is showing!
Cha
(297,692 posts)the "white supremisty" look of the previous beautiful Rose Garden.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Cha
(297,692 posts)I had no idea what a Hampton Inn looks like.. but I guess now I do.
to you, Me!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)She does not deserve the title of First Lady and the nerve of her to undo the legacy of beautiful, accomplished First Ladies who have gone before her is just appalling.
Do not get on my ass for calling her what she is. You all know it's true.
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)There is more than one definition for the word "whore". People sell themselves for a number of reasons. Only one of them is for sex. This woman sold her soul.
Me.
(35,454 posts)1. They deserve what they get
2. Truth hurts especially with this birther.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They don't get a pass from us. Besides, they are all just projecting what they believe about their own anyway.
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)But if she sold her soul, that would constitute fraud wouldn't it?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,263 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,299 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)new tennis pavilion.
badhair77
(4,221 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)pictures. Given her preference for 3 inch spiked heels I doubt we ever will see any.
I wonder why all the color was removed from the 'rose' garden to be replaced by only all white flowers?
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,212 posts)Cha
(297,692 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Look at the decor in Trump Tower. Every time I see it it reminds me of Roma furniture, a store of questionable taste that used to be in downtown Manhattan.
Cha
(297,692 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,862 posts)Tweeted.
pansypoo53219
(20,997 posts)i tried to fix too, but what not do it!!!
IronLionZion
(45,534 posts)which might be a metaphor for something else, like diversity. But considering her taste in decorating for Christmas she really hates colors.
The garden looked much better before she "fixed" it to look more conservative. Conservatives live a boring miserable life.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Presumably all the new roses are either white or pastels (light, milky, nearly-white colors) which she prefers. Sounds, to me, like self-loathing regarding her own, darkish skin tone.
-Laelth
FakeNoose
(32,770 posts)She has to do as much damage as she can right NOW.
Me.
(35,454 posts)And since she lied on her immigration papers, we should ship she and her chain migration family right back to where they came from
FakeNoose
(32,770 posts)... once the divorce is final and the settlement check has cleared.
Me.
(35,454 posts)He's the only person she cares for and I can't imagine the family won't fight like hell to keep him here.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)That whole family literally nauseates me.
I can't take much more.
badhair77
(4,221 posts)her convention speech. They do indeed pee on everything they see.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Why do they need to destroy all that came before them? They've moved classic portraits and relegated them to back rooms, eliminated Michelle O's wonderful vegetable garden, and now this.
How very sad to reverse contributions by former First Ladies that should stand with history.
Evolve Dammit
(16,773 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)but this WaPo story discussing the history of the Rose Garden and some of the rationale behind the redo sheds some light.
The piece is is too generous to the current wife of the wannabe dictator, but about the removal of the crab apples, it contains two sentences, which I've bolded, that speak to the unnecessary loss:
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)She knows that she can never compare to her. Melanie is cheap and tacky.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Botany
(70,588 posts)But still they along with the yew bushes provided a neat part of a sun / shadow look along the colonnade.
As near as I can tell they planted crap.
They also removed some nice roses too.
BTW. Jackie Kennedy had some really good people who helped in the design and installation of "her rose garden."
BTW I'm a professional @ this stuff and this stunt will loose even more votes for Trump.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)Move them, give them away as gifts or sell them on eBay for money?
This was a horrible insult to past presidents and the American people, IMO.
KY.........
Botany
(70,588 posts).... some old standards might still be going but I doubt it. As per the roses that were in the
garden when Melania "renewed it" in August I doubt any of them could be saved.
The new garden is an abortion and looks like it was done by Joe's Lawn and Landscaping
Service. The secret of a good landscape is you should always have something of interest
year round and from what I could tell this work doesn't pass that test.
druidity33
(6,447 posts)Everyone seems to be upset about the lack of color in the new setup... but since we're past Spring and Summer flowers, i do wonder what it will look like in Spring. Did they remove all of the tulips? Honestly that and the apple trees seem to be what most people are upset about. I'm more pissed off about the concrete path...
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)Time for a scouring
Laelth
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Historic NY
(37,453 posts)[link:https://www.nps.gov/tps/how-to-preserve/briefs/36-cultural-landscapes.htm|]
A landscape to complement the restored WH almost 60 yrs ago.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)These people are ugly and destroy everything they touch.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)ellie
(6,929 posts)That the trumps are America's first family. What in the actual fuck?
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
BamaRefugee
(3,487 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)Paladin
(28,274 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)that with Jackie Kennedy's crab apple trees! Her & that other insensitive worse half are just 2 miserable illegitimate W.H. squatters! My GOD those cock roaches have got to go! Let's get some compassion & respect for history like Joe & Jill!...
Stinky The Clown
(67,819 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)joy whenever we finally get rid of these 2 embarrassments!
Kaleva
(36,351 posts)Mossfern
(2,555 posts)She's totally hollow - you can see right through her.
She's bent and gnarled but still gifts us with fragrant blossoms and some fruit.
She's the Queen of our garden and I love her dearly!
Kaleva
(36,351 posts)What I've read is that crab apple trees start to go downhill by age 40 and few make it to 70.
Mossfern
(2,555 posts)most people would have removed her years ago. I had an arborist assess the trees on my property and he suggested that we just tend to her as a beloved pet rather than cut her down. That's what we've done. My kids ate peanut butter and crab apple jelly sandwiches.
Perhaps it's different with blossoming crab apple trees. Ours bears fruit - not so much any more though.
Kaleva
(36,351 posts)My wife and I are going to start a grove of oaks in my step-daughter's and her husband's property (they have 20 acres and the room for it). The acorns are from an old oak on our property and we'll plant one tree for each of the grandchildren. We have two started already this year and we should have 6 more started next year. I'll probably plant a few extra in case of losses.
alterfurz
(2,475 posts)murielm99
(30,765 posts)marble falls
(57,246 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)marble falls
(57,246 posts)orangecrush
(19,620 posts)Can't be gone soon enough.
OverBurn
(959 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)I may be the one lone voice, but those trees were old (nearing end of lifespan and maybe losing some attractiveness), and they were obscuring another beautiful feature - that gorgeous collonade, of equal historic significance! Everything was rather overgrown and suffocating and now looks fresher, but the low-growing beautiful flowers should have remained.
Flowering crabapple trees often (but not always, depending on variety) produce messy small fruit, which are of limited use due to their bitter and tart flavor.
I would like to know if the trees were moved, and who did the work.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)are going to make it.
colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)I hope I make it - gotta make it to the election!
Layzeebeaver
(1,643 posts)Unbelievable...
napi21
(45,806 posts)for herm having to put up with him. Looks like two weeds in the garden to me!
Me.
(35,454 posts)as she was/is a birther from the start
LudwigPastorius
(9,177 posts)Those trees were in the way of the TV cameras that could capture Trump's scowling waddle back into the White House after his insane press-rants.