Horrific video of WI police shooting unarmed black man

[Johnny2X2X]

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This one is just unreal and crazy. And will spark massive protests again. Sickening.

Victim is still alive.

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. This will never end until we wholesale change our LEO's.

The worst case of police criminal murder yet. Unbelievable. They don't give a shit.

[Johnny2X2X]

3. Cowards

Who knows the full story, but none of these officers were willing to engage this guy until one of them was shooting him in the back 7 times.

[OAITW r.2.0]

6. And they think sane Americans support this?

Smartphones are exposing LEO's like nothing in the past. You'd fucking think that they would factor this into their threat calculus.

[Ferrets are Cool]

24. They don't care if Americans support it

They have gotten away with it for years and it's ingrained in their DNA. Hell, it's why many of them join the force.

[greenjar_01]

44. They operate with impunity

They are essentially an extortion gang.

[radius777]

71. +1. They know public safety is in their hands,

and will retaliate by 'allowing' crime to rise if they don't get what they want.

Their police unions (which mostly are aligned with the GOP and Trump) protect them from accountability.

The only way out of this is to dissolve the unions and rehire based on merit.

[womanofthehills]

58. Cops were called because two women were yelling or fighting

It was reported he got between the women to break it up. That’s the early story.

[Amaryllis]

27. What's LEO?

[OAITW r.2.0]

29. Law Enforcement Organizations. An umbrella for all of the policing industries. nt

[Amaryllis]

30. THank you.

[BadGimp]

50. LEOs (in this context means) Law Enforcement Officer

As a motorcycle rider, this is what LEO means to us and them (the LEOs). It's a term of respect and acknowledgment for everyone imo.

LEOs can of course also be Law Enforcement Organizations but that's not the common vernacular I'm familiar with.

[brush]

2. Another murder on video. All they had to do is take him down...

since they outnumbered him, or pick him up later since they had his license plate number. Two more trigger-happy cops just killed their careers and will now go to jail.

[JudyM]

4. They could've shot out the tires.

[sandensea]

9. And miss out on all the fun?

Plus hundreds of thousands in GoFundMe donations from right-wing knuckle-draggers afterward?

[brush]

10. Yes, that too. All they seem to know to resort to is to shoot.

This is just felony murder and aggravated disregard for life. There was absolutely no reason to shoot.

[JudyM]

14. No question. It was egoic... he wasn't being shown respect so he had the last word.

Glad it caught on camera.

[Johnny2X2X]

17. Victim survived

Not sure how. But it’s being reported he’s in serious condition.

[OAITW r.2.0]

28. Shot point blank 7 times?

Wow...he must be superman. And the cop obviously isn't qualified to shoot a gun, unless all the shots were to non-lethal area's of the body....but 7 times?

[brush]

57. The cop should be prosecuted for shooting, and for being a bad shot.

How did that clown ever qualify to carry a gun. Anxious to shoot but doesn't know how.

[ret5hd]

12. Ha! More likely suspension...I mean paid vacation...

and a hearty slap on the back from their co-workers.

FTP
ACAB

[handmade34]

18. serious condition

hopefully he will survive...

[csziggy]

19. My reaction - if they had put their guns away and used regular restraint methods

They could have gotten him under control. But every damn one of them had a gun in one hand so they considered that they only recourse.

That man was not a raging maniac. If any one or two officers had put away their guns, they could have restrained him. This was murder.

[OAITW r.2.0]

31. Like having a hammer and looking for a nail. nt

[csziggy]

33. Exactly! nt

[radius777]

72. His life had no value in their minds. /nt

[uponit7771]

65. +1, and I BET good money that PD has a number of complaints against them too !!

[Johnny2X2X]

5. Keep filming them!

Think of the hundreds and thousands of murder a police got away with before the time of video cameras in everyone’s hands.

[lunasun]

39. + plus how many times even now they still don't have video of what happened just a police report .

[Johnny2X2X]

41. Yeah, no video and this is never even a story

So many police shootings in the past where eyewitnesses were dismissed. Video is the only thing that making change, and it’s the police who are reacting so poorly to the change of some accountability.

[budkin]

7. This one is going to trigger another round of protests

Holy shit.

[OAITW r.2.0]

8. Whoever opens this thread. Watch. Recommend. Share. nt

[OAITW r.2.0]

11. Uncanny timing....can't wait for the Republican response tomorrow.

[regnaD kciN]

25. They'll say "he was going into his car to get a gun"...

...so it was all "self-defense."

[irisblue]

13. Milwaukee Paper has a story

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/23/wisconsin-police-shooting-kenosha-cops-shoot-man-sunday-evening/3427347001/

snip--"The Kenosha News reported that neighbors said the shooting victim was a man who was trying to break up a fight between two women. Bystanders said the man was Tased and then shot several times.

A video circulating on social media shows a man in a white shirt and black shorts walking to a gray van, followed by two male police officers with weapons drawn. The video does not show what happened before the man walked away from the officers, nor what was said, if anything.

As the man opens the door to get in, an officer grabs his shirt to hold him still, then appears to shoot him in the back at close range. Seven shots are heard, followed by a car horn, presumably from the man's head falling forward. A woman who followed behind the police can be seen screaming and jumping up and down."

More at source

[dalton99a]

52. +1

[Blue Owl]

15. K&R for exposure

[ecstatic]

16. They just can't help themselves. Even with the cameras rolling

It's sickening!

[Reader Rabbit]

20. Murder

Straight up cold-blooded murder.

[Lucky Luciano]

22. Somehow still alive actually. Most definitely attempted murder.

[BannonsLiver]

45. Prediction: they'll say they thought he was getting into the car to retrieve a weapon

I’m not saying that is justified but that’s the defense they will use. Pretty much SOP with a lot of these officer involved shootings.

[Johnny2X2X]

21. It's also training.

Yes, the police departments are full of racists, but I rink training is a huge part of it too. From the minute these officers start training they’re shown video after video of what could go wrong. They watch video after video of cops getting shot or shot at.

So a guy getting in a car is an excuse. I way they could have seen him reaching for a gun that quickly. He opened the door when they started shooting. Cops are terrified because they’ve been trained to be scared all the time.

[OAITW r.2.0]

32. That has to be fixed. Freaking out a new cop by overstating the problem does not help.

Reform the police. In a multiple of ways.

[StarfishSaver]

36. This isn't a training problem. It's a hiring problem

You can't train that kind of aggressiveness out of someone. He never should have been hired in the first place.

[Johnny2X2X]

37. Combo of all of it.

Training. Racism. Testosterone filled new hires.

First thing they need to do is vet these new hires the way the FBI vets their hires. Really dig into their background and weed out anyone with a hint of racism or the wrong personality.

And this might be controversial. But pay them better. Make it a more desirable job and you can be more selective and get better people for the job.

[StarfishSaver]

38. Yes

It starts with hiring. Hire the right people and the training will work much better.

And paying people well helps ensure that the departments attract qualified professionals and aren't a dumping ground for people who can't get hired anywhere else.

[Iggo]

51. There's a word for people who are scared all the time: Cowards.

[BamaRefugee]

23. Just imagine the killings the week before Election Day. They WANT people in the streets

Protesting, so they can suspend voting “for the public’s safety “.
Sure, some innocent lives will be lost, but that’s a small price to pay to keep trump in power.

[regnaD kciN]

26. I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to hear Republicans are celebrating...

Thinking that this is sure to bring another round of protests/riots during the Republican Convention, so they can make a major point promising to "protect you from the lawlessness and carnage we see in Democrat cities, the same carnage that would be allowed nationwide by a radical left Biden administration."

[OAITW r.2.0]

34. But , then people watch the video. And they are reminded why they protested for BLM.

Cops are their own worst enemy in the age of cellphones....

[BamaRefugee]

47. You would think so. But they just kill at will now, they couldn't care less if it's filmed.

[OAITW r.2.0]

49. It will catch up with them.

This does not go away. LEO brutality gets amplified and millions react. Repeat, repeat, then....change.

[MustLoveBeagles]

35. K&R

[cntrfthrs]

40. you know...i really hate sayig this but...

if you cooperate with the police...even if the stop is bogus...you'll live to ...live... another day...and no, I'm no right wing trump butt-kisser or conservative...hell, i voted for Bernie and am a firm progressive...

[Johnny2X2X]

43. This wasn't a traffic stop

They were on a domestic call that this guy was playing peacemaker at.

[Sapient Donkey]

53. True in many cases, but that doesn't excuse the "guns are our only tool" mindset of police

With better training, then officers could have been more prepared to subdue him before he reached the car and was able to put himself in a situation in which the police were unsure if he was trying to get a firearm or other weapon. If someone doesn't listen and they cannot deploy a taser, or a taser doesn't work, then the gun is their only tool right now. As soon as they pull out their guns, if the person doesn't comply the only way it will end is for the person to do something that makes the officers believe he's going to cause harm, at which point the cops shoot. If the cops were trained in hand to hand combat, and able to take down suspect with confidence (due to training), then they could have stopped him before he even reached the vehicle. Of course the other option is to just let him walk to his car without hassle. Maybe he was seeking a weapon or maybe he just planned on driving away. Whether or not that would be a good choice seems dependent on why he was being approached to begin with.

Another thing is that we need to have some sort national agency that will field complaints about local police. This agency should be highly transparent and effective at finding and rooting out bad officers. So many times people have poor attitudes toward police, because the police harass them. That leads to what many of us may see as irrational behavior when dealing with the police (assholes or decent). If it happens all the time, you're eventually going to snap. If people feel they have actual recourse against bullying police behavior, then that would likely lead to a better attitude by police to the public, and by the public toward police.

[uponit7771]

63. "... if you're white ...", I'm black I can't give cops the BOTD they'll act lawfully when they stop

... me.

There are over 500 videos this summer of cops acting worse than the criminals.

[Sapient Donkey]

70. I get that. Which is what the last part of my ramblings were about

There needs to be a way to regain the trust of the police. Trust that if they misbehave, or they become excessively aggressive and violent, then they will be held accountable. Not just for the egregious acts of needlessness killing/maiming non-threatening people, but also the more mundane unjustified harassment. Over the years I have had frustrating encounters with some cops who were just power tripping jerkoffs. I had the urge to tell them to screw off and just ignore them, but I held it back. But ultimately I can count on one hand, and I also never felt too threatened in the situations. However, if I had to deal with that sort of stuff regularly, then I could easily see my attitude change. A federal agency that is fair, transparent, effective, efficient, and powerful to handle such complaints seems like it might go at least some of the way toward helping. Of course it would have to have powers to deal with local police forces that do no cooperate. Not sure how that would work.

[greyl]

59. That is total horseshit. nt

[obamanut2012]

60. blue lives matter, right?

lulz

just stop

[uponit7771]

62. "... most of the time if you're white ....", there ...fixed it for you. Fuck, don't believe we STILL

... have to say this shit to this day !!

People, wake tfu !!

[Voltaire2]

66. Are you white or what?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

68. This is demonstrably not true, so quit saying it.

[radius777]

73. George Floyd cooperated and he was killed.

and this is the case for many others.

Also 'failure to cooperate' should not be a death sentence; the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

And whites are generally given far more latitude in these situations because their lives are seen as having value.

[greenjar_01]

42. American police are extremely poorly trained, or trained for the absolute wrong function

There is no other explanation for their widespread, chronic, and severe incompetence.

[Dlpger61]

46. They are trained

American police are trained properly to kill BLACK MEN,

Remember DILLION ROOF? They no exactly what they are doing

[BamaRefugee]

48. Average time to get through police academy 5 months. Average time to get a cosmetology

License? 9 to 15 months.

[world wide wally]

54. Is this Trump's idea of law and order?

Where are the good guys upholding the law?

[Celerity]

55. raging and crying here, this shit HAS to END!!!!!!!

[Crunchy Frog]

56. Jesus Fucking Christ. nt

[DFW]

61. That was no "Police Action." That was an execution.

An unsuccessful one, as the victim is (so far) still alive, but an execution all the same.

The trigger-happy cop should be arrested for attempted murder, and tried for murder one if the victim dies.

Every time this happens, now that the shootings are caught on video, a piece of America dies around the world. Why should anyone anywhere believe we are for democracy and justice if we allow this to happen again and again and again with no stop to it.

[uponit7771]

64. ***THE BAD GUYS SHOT ANOTHER BLACK MAN IN THE BACK !!! ***

[WhiskeyGrinder]

67. Fuck the police. Abolish it all.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

69. It's not like Mr. Blake even looks physically imposing!

The cop couldn't subdue him beforehand?!

And there better be evidence of a weapon in that car or this incident is even more insane!

[Oneironaut]

74. I'm going to be honest. The video reminds me of SS soldiers randomly executing Jews.

There are definitely “Schindlers List” vibes.