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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 02:41 PM Aug 2020

Florida pastor who dismissed coronavirus as 'just the flu' dies

BNO News
Published 1 hour ago on August 24, 2020

A Florida pastor who at one point dismissed the threat of coronavirus as “just the flu” has died of complications caused by the illness, her family said on Monday. Her husband, who was equally skeptical, was also hospitalized but has since recovered.

Erin Hitchens, a 46-year-old pastor in West Palm Beach, fell ill in April and spent months in the intensive care unit, where she was put on a ventilator and sedated with no signs of improvement. She died this month of heart problems related to COVID-19.

Erin and her husband, Brian Lee Hitchens, were both skeptical of the virus when it reached the U.S. and began to spread. They believed online conspiracy theories, didn’t follow health guidance, and waited to seek help when they fell ill, according to the BBC, which featured Brian’s story in May.

“The news is emphasizing way too much on this coronavirus garbage, all it is is just the flu,” Erin wrote on Facebook on March 12, when she mistakenly believed that she had already gone through COVID-19 in the past. “I recently had it, I’m not dead. I’m not in the hospital and I’m fine.”

Erin added: “Can we all come together and get a petition going and tell the news to stop creating hysteria? Dr. Oz and other doctors are calling the news media’s out saying there is mass hysteria … Enough is enough, and you know what, I’m not scared, this is why I’m speaking out. Others need to speak out too with their voice.”


Read more: https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/florida-pastor-who-dismissed-coronavirus-as-just-the-flu-dies/

Just heard on Thom Hartmann program.
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Florida pastor who dismissed coronavirus as 'just the flu' dies (Original Post) Mike 03 Aug 2020 OP
Well, NCDem47 Aug 2020 #1
Whoops. lpbk2713 Aug 2020 #2
My favorite epitaph: PCIntern Aug 2020 #3
"I'm not dead." Maru Kitteh Aug 2020 #85
Hope Dr Oz sees this. I think he has been very irresponsible in his Hannity appearances. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #4
I wonder if someone couldn't bring a lawsuit, thucythucy Aug 2020 #10
Could never stand him Rebl2 Aug 2020 #40
Dr. Oz is a fraud. Mickju Aug 2020 #49
Dr Oz should have his career ruined for medical malpractice DSandra Aug 2020 #57
BNO is a total right wing news site tenderfoot Aug 2020 #5
I had never heard of them. I googled and they look legit. Freethinker65 Aug 2020 #16
Sure they are. Lancero Aug 2020 #22
The must have cleaned up tenderfoot Aug 2020 #24
No, you have them confused with something else. They were never 'sketchy' Celerity Aug 2020 #36
There was a wingnut site that must have confused it with... tenderfoot Aug 2020 #73
it's not a high horse m8, you tried to slip it in that they used to be dodgy, when they never were Celerity Aug 2020 #78
Good. SamKnause Aug 2020 #6
Took her a while to die 5+ months. Blue_true Aug 2020 #70
I wish there was some way to hold the disseminators of dangerous misinformation accountable. thucythucy Aug 2020 #7
There are plenty of other articles, some right here on DU. Husband is quoted as saying "blah blah we BamaRefugee Aug 2020 #17
Facebook is a pox on our body politic. thucythucy Aug 2020 #18
The people that spread lies always claim that they didn't put people up to what happened. Blue_true Aug 2020 #71
This all reminds me of something Abraham Lincoln wrote thucythucy Aug 2020 #79
2019 Liberty University graduate struggle4progress Aug 2020 #8
So probably no science classes. n/t Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #29
Well, that explains a lot. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #46
"...were both skeptical of the virus when it reached the U.S." jayfish Aug 2020 #9
I'm sorry but she couldn't even spell "Reverend" right. CurtEastPoint Aug 2020 #11
We can't all be smart as she demonstrated uniquely well. Lucky Luciano Aug 2020 #26
Well, that memorial service announcement answered one question... Hekate Aug 2020 #62
In theory, the husband should be immune MyMission Aug 2020 #82
Bye Erin malaise Aug 2020 #12
and they looked healthy enough to take on any ailment or disease that came their way Celerity Aug 2020 #43
Indeed malaise Aug 2020 #48
sometimes I just bang mine, lolol Celerity Aug 2020 #50
Never hurt yourself over these fools malaise Aug 2020 #54
my cell is padded Celerity Aug 2020 #56
Yeah, I would definitely say they are in the "high risk" demographic. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #51
She had been near death for over 5 months. Blue_true Aug 2020 #72
At his size I'm surprised he recovered. Mickju Aug 2020 #53
Erin...the Reverand (sic) Erin is the dead one. Liberal In Texas Aug 2020 #63
Thanks malaise Aug 2020 #64
Evolution in action! 🐟🦎🐒💁‍♂️ JohnQFunk Aug 2020 #13
Evolution works even if you don't believe in it DBoon Aug 2020 #37
When these evangelical I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2020 #14
Have tbey figured out it isn't about abortion or homosexuality? CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #30
I find these stories so sad. The tragedy began long before they ignored the coronavirus. BeckyDem Aug 2020 #15
No masks needed where you're going. oasis Aug 2020 #19
Maybe an asbestos one. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #31
I'm looking around Horse with no Name Aug 2020 #20
Womp womp RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #21
Months on a ventilator. What a waste of resources. She should have just continued to kairos12 Aug 2020 #23
Yay! Belief is the ultimate science! bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #25
As is typical with dumb Repubs, Hav Aug 2020 #27
Tuff Titties PlanetBev Aug 2020 #28
Poor Pastor Hitchens. Glorfindel Aug 2020 #32
Can we all come together and get a petition going to force "hoax" claimers to forgo treatment? flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 #33
This is the 4th covid related death of a religious leader who had poo-pooed the virus, liberalla Aug 2020 #34
I wonder if this pastor caused any other deaths by her shitty "advice" or by the fact that she BigDemVoter Aug 2020 #35
BBC link to same story DBoon Aug 2020 #38
Well, at least he'll have a colossal hospital bill to remember her by. (Harsh, I know but I'm catbyte Aug 2020 #39
Could be worse central scrutinizer Aug 2020 #65
I thought that the first CARE's act passed by congress ... aggiesal Aug 2020 #69
He was hospitalized for several weeks and barely survived. Blue_true Aug 2020 #75
Karma is a bitch. Pepsidog Aug 2020 #41
Well, it is what it is appalachiablue Aug 2020 #42
Thoughts & prayers, oh ignorant one. chwaliszewski Aug 2020 #44
It reminds me of the famous last words of an American Civil War general (spoken on a battlefield): anamnua Aug 2020 #45
Will he get 40 virgins, yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2020 #47
I really hate to say this... SergeStorms Aug 2020 #52
It's hard to feel sorry, I have to admit Hav Aug 2020 #74
We haven't been sending our best In It to Win It Aug 2020 #55
Science doesn't give a rat's ass if you believe in it or not. volstork Aug 2020 #58
My ability to give a shit about idiots dying Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #59
You should care that we live in a nation that brainwashes a sizable chunk of the population into Doodley Aug 2020 #68
Those are two completely different things. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #77
It isn't just some amazing coincidence that there are so many "dangerous idiots" in America. Doodley Aug 2020 #80
Good night Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #83
It's people like her who turned COVID-19 into what it has become in the U.S. C Moon Aug 2020 #60
Exactly. nt Blue_true Aug 2020 #76
what is amazing is there are dozens if not hundreds of examples of stories like this... Takket Aug 2020 #61
They should have read their bibles: "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing." Doodley Aug 2020 #66
She cited Dr. Oz! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #67
I'm curious if the other wingnuts in their world have changed their minds on covid after this Vivienne235729 Aug 2020 #81
An article from a while back TexasBushwhacker Aug 2020 #84

thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
10. I wonder if someone couldn't bring a lawsuit,
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 02:54 PM
Aug 2020

something along the lines of medical malpractice.

Just because he's on TV shouldn't mean he should be exempt from being held responsible for his actions. In fact, it should mean just the opposite.

Rebl2

(13,508 posts)
40. Could never stand him
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:06 PM
Aug 2020

Any dr. that doesn’t believe Covid is a problem should lose their license to practice. I believe he is a lot like trump and eats up all the attention he gets. Wish the today show would not have him on, but actually haven’t seen him on there in some time. Maybe they finally figured out he is just a tv dr., and not for real.

Freethinker65

(10,021 posts)
16. I had never heard of them. I googled and they look legit.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:24 PM
Aug 2020

News agency from the Netherlands. They rate high and non-biased?

tenderfoot

(8,434 posts)
24. The must have cleaned up
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:21 PM
Aug 2020

because when they first came across my radar they were posting some sketchy shit.

I stand corrected.

Celerity

(43,382 posts)
36. No, you have them confused with something else. They were never 'sketchy'
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:46 PM
Aug 2020

If you insist on clinging to your story, produce the receipts, otherwise all you are doing is a FUD hit job.



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tenderfoot

(8,434 posts)
73. There was a wingnut site that must have confused it with...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:54 PM
Aug 2020

I also stated that I stood correct. Not sure how many times that needs to be said.

So get off your high horse.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
70. Took her a while to die 5+ months.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:42 PM
Aug 2020

I remember reading a story about her husband barely surviving and becoming a convert that COVID19 is real. She was in bad shape then, sometime in early April.

thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
7. I wish there was some way to hold the disseminators of dangerous misinformation accountable.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 02:50 PM
Aug 2020

"They believed on-line conspiracy theories...."

I wonder when the first lawsuits around this will be filed, or if that would even be legally possible.

Saying the government is concealing alien bodies at Area 51 is one thing. It's stupid, but relatively harmless.

But purposely misrepresenting vital health information, to the point where people are actually dying (and in appalling numbers) seems to me to be something else entirely.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
17. There are plenty of other articles, some right here on DU. Husband is quoted as saying "blah blah we
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:44 PM
Aug 2020

found all our information on Facebook"

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
71. The people that spread lies always claim that they didn't put people up to what happened.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:47 PM
Aug 2020

They are scum, Hannity, Trump, QAnon, rightwing evangelical ministers, all pure scum. They use inflammatory rhetoric to induce some weak minded person to kill himself or herself, or kill a person, then the real instigators claim total innocence.

thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
79. This all reminds me of something Abraham Lincoln wrote
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:05 PM
Aug 2020

about holding people accountable. He was talking about people who were trying to undermine the army during the civil war by encouraging soldiers to desert.

It went something like, "Must I hang a poor boy for desertion, but not touch a hair on the head of the miscreant who urged him top desert?" Not an exact quote, but close.

I actually feel sad about this poor woman's death (while hoping her delusions about Covid-19 didn't induce others to also put themselves at risk). It's the people you list i hold most to blame, and the Murdoch family, and the advertisers on Fox and Limbaugh and such.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
62. Well, that memorial service announcement answered one question...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 06:06 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Tue Aug 25, 2020, 12:50 AM - Edit history (1)

The grieving widower did not learn a damned thing about how COVID is transmitted: the service was inside the church and there was a catered reception afterward.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
82. In theory, the husband should be immune
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:59 PM
Aug 2020

So he learned he can't catch it or transmit it at the moment. He's safe.
But obviously he could care less about the attendees transmitting or catching it.

And of course (sarcasm) those that attended did so by choice. They were free to come and offer support and condolences, or to stay home. Attend at your own risk! But then, if their friends were Covid non believers, they would only be convinced if they themselves caught it. Maybe this was an opportunity to catch it so they could learn the truth?!? Maybe that's what the husband was thinking?

Nah, he probably wasn't thinking at all!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
51. Yeah, I would definitely say they are in the "high risk" demographic.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:18 PM
Aug 2020

People like this are dangerous, and there are too many weak minded lemmings out there who are all too willing to follow them to their doom.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, there is now one less voice trying to convince people that this is all a big hoax.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
72. She had been near death for over 5 months.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:52 PM
Aug 2020

I wonder during that time whether there was any conscious realization by her of what she had done?

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,470 posts)
14. When these evangelical
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:13 PM
Aug 2020

Preacher fuckfaces die, I don't care anymore. A Magat dies, I really don't care anymore.

I think their behavior and toxic beliefs condemns them before they die in my eyes.

Some humans because of who they are give up being human,and so when one of these death culties dies I feel well, a little joy.

However I care about other people dying who aren't republicans narcisstistic or magats. All the black people murdered by cops I am very saddened,the protestors,transpeople,the Dems and kids,death is cruel .

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
15. I find these stories so sad. The tragedy began long before they ignored the coronavirus.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:14 PM
Aug 2020

Decades of the conservative mantra that the government is leveraging your rights. First, they ended slavery, then what do they want?

Women to vote? Black people, to vote? Pay taxes to build public schools, have roads, and bridges?? WHAT??????

I truly hope the partner survives.

kairos12

(12,861 posts)
23. Months on a ventilator. What a waste of resources. She should have just continued to
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:20 PM
Aug 2020

call it a hoax refuse medical treatment.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
27. As is typical with dumb Repubs,
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:30 PM
Aug 2020

the realization only comes after you get hit by it yourself. Besides his wife, to how many other deaths did he contribute? Now, while he acknowledges the virus, he also commented that he cannot change the past and that he can only make better decisions in the future. That's basically applying the Trumpian "It is what it is" attitude after his wife died. How those clueless idiots who undermined the fight against this virus can live with themselves, I don't know.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
33. Can we all come together and get a petition going to force "hoax" claimers to forgo treatment?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:33 PM
Aug 2020

Why should our precious few medical resources go to treating people who are willing to risk their lives to support their beliefs? Some perfectly innocent person's life may have been lost while trying to save this idiot.

t's a matter of who deserves medical care, and this idiot clearly forfeited her right to COVID treatment.

liberalla

(9,247 posts)
34. This is the 4th covid related death of a religious leader who had poo-pooed the virus,
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:37 PM
Aug 2020

that I've seen. There are probably more...
Sad and unnecessary.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
35. I wonder if this pastor caused any other deaths by her shitty "advice" or by the fact that she
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:42 PM
Aug 2020

spread it from her own infection?

catbyte

(34,390 posts)
39. Well, at least he'll have a colossal hospital bill to remember her by. (Harsh, I know but I'm
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:06 PM
Aug 2020

so goddamned sick and tired of these willfully ignorant fools putting everyone at risk)

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
65. Could be worse
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:08 PM
Aug 2020

She might have “survived” and be facing years of dialysis, heart disease, supplemental oxygen or maybe anti-rejection drugs after a lung transplant. On top of the bill. This virus is a motherfucker. Some of those it doesn’t kill outright face a life hardly worth living, in my opinion. That’s why I’ve changed my advance directive to include “do not intubate, palliative care only“

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
69. I thought that the first CARE's act passed by congress ...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:28 PM
Aug 2020

covered all medical bills related to the Cornovirus?

I might be wrong.
I'll have to research it to verify.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
75. He was hospitalized for several weeks and barely survived.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 08:01 PM
Aug 2020

Even his bill is likely enormous. If I remember correctly about him in an article, he was a Lift driver or something like that. His wife already had health issues, in addition to being very obese.

anamnua

(1,111 posts)
45. It reminds me of the famous last words of an American Civil War general (spoken on a battlefield):
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:11 PM
Aug 2020

'Nobody could hit an elephant at this dist......'

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
52. I really hate to say this...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:20 PM
Aug 2020

but.......good. Hey, Donald Trump made me this way. I used to be a nice guy.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
74. It's hard to feel sorry, I have to admit
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:57 PM
Aug 2020

because at this point, it has become a race of either them changing course (even if it's by dying) or them killing others. If death is what stops them from causing more harm to those who take this seriously and if they'd otherwise stand in the way of containing the virus, then it is what it is: Something beneficial for society.

volstork

(5,401 posts)
58. Science doesn't give a rat's ass if you believe in it or not.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:31 PM
Aug 2020

(To paraphrase Neil DeGrasse Tyson)

Ignore it at your own peril.

Doodley

(9,091 posts)
68. You should care that we live in a nation that brainwashes a sizable chunk of the population into
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:23 PM
Aug 2020

believing things that are false, and as a result people are suffering and dying.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
77. Those are two completely different things.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 08:19 PM
Aug 2020

One is NOT like the other.

And, not believing in science is not brainwashing. It's stupidity. These people are dangerous idiots.

Doodley

(9,091 posts)
80. It isn't just some amazing coincidence that there are so many "dangerous idiots" in America.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:31 PM
Aug 2020

Why are they like that? What caused it? And what role does propaganda play?

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
60. It's people like her who turned COVID-19 into what it has become in the U.S.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:39 PM
Aug 2020

People believed her, Trump and those like them screaming about it being a nothing burger.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
61. what is amazing is there are dozens if not hundreds of examples of stories like this...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:43 PM
Aug 2020

and yet even when reality comes right into the inner circle of the MAGAt world, it still does not even BUDGE the needle of their concern of belief in the virus.

Doodley

(9,091 posts)
66. They should have read their bibles: "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing."
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:19 PM
Aug 2020

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
81. I'm curious if the other wingnuts in their world have changed their minds on covid after this
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:46 PM
Aug 2020

or is it ok bc it was just ONE death that they know of?

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