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maxrandb

(15,344 posts)
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 02:22 PM Aug 2020

Hate Radio. It's way past time to do something about it

Since it's the Orange Asspickle Beauty Pageant this week, I was doing some research about propaganda and came across this.

"It was Goebbels' job to propagate the anti-Bolshevik statements of Hitler and aim them directly at neighboring countries with German-speaking minorities. In Goebbels' "Radio as the Eighth Great Power" speech, he proclaimed:

“It would not have been possible for us to take power or to use it in the ways we have without the radio...It is no exaggeration to say that the German revolution, at least in the form it took, would have been impossible without the airplane and the radio…[Radio] reached the entire nation, regardless of class, standing, or religion. That was primarily the result of the tight centralization, the strong reporting, and the up-to-date nature of the German radio.”


The protests need to move from random city squares to the studios and offices of the hundreds of Hate Radio stations across the country.

The protests need to move from some random federal building full of public servants, to the over 85 Universities that broadcast their sports on stations that provide nothing but propaganda for the rest of their programming.

The protests need to move from some random city block, to the professional sports teams that broadcast their sports on stations that provide nothing but hate for the remainder of their programming.

LeBron James needs to be asked why the Lakers appear on Hate Radio stations.

Aaron Rodgers needs to be asked why the Packers appear on Hate Radio stations.

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Hate Radio. It's way past time to do something about it (Original Post) maxrandb Aug 2020 OP
never more of a need than right now... Moostache Aug 2020 #1
From 2015 to 2020. Replace the word 'radio' with 'social media' Budi Aug 2020 #2
From Noam Chomsky UpInArms Aug 2020 #3
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine! Vogon_Glory Aug 2020 #4
Send all that crap into outer space. hunter Aug 2020 #5
Hate radio is the last war IMO BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #6
Yes I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2020 #7

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
1. never more of a need than right now...
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 02:28 PM
Aug 2020

This failed experiment in removing the Fairness Doctrine has led us down the path to ruin...it is still not too late to turn around though!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
2. From 2015 to 2020. Replace the word 'radio' with 'social media'
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 02:33 PM
Aug 2020

“It would not have been possible for us to take power or to use it in the ways we have without the radio...It is no exaggeration to say that the German revolution, at least in the form it took, would have been impossible without the airplane and the radio


Social media has mastered hate in a way that Goebbels playbook could not have dreamed of.

The total destruction of a competitor via re-imaging thru mass hate propaganda, is Goebbels' great techie grandkid.


Hate Social Media is as destructive, & far worse than Hate Radio.
The purpose is the same.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
3. From Noam Chomsky
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 02:39 PM
Aug 2020
[The] American business community was also very impressed with the propaganda effort. They had a problem at that time. The country was becoming formally more democratic. A lot more people were able to vote and that sort of thing. The country was becoming wealthier and more people could participate and a lot of new immigrants were coming in, and so on.
So what do you do? It's going to be harder to run things as a private club. Therefore, obviously, you have to control what people think. There had been public relation specialists but there was never a public relations industry. There was a guy hired to make Rockefeller's image look prettier and that sort of thing. But this huge public relations industry, which is a U.S. invention and a monstrous industry, came out of the first World War. The leading figures were people in the Creel Commission. In fact, the main one, Edward Bernays, comes right out of the Creel Commission. He has a book that came out right afterwards called Propaganda. The term "propaganda," incidentally, did not have negative connotations in those days. It was during the second World War that the term became taboo because it was connected with Germany, and all those bad things. But in this period, the term propaganda just meant information or something like that. So he wrote a book called Propaganda around 1925, and it starts off by saying he is applying the lessons of the first World War. The propaganda system of the first World War and this commission that he was part of showed, he says, it is possible to "regiment the public mind every bit as much as an army regiments their bodies." These new techniques of regimentation of minds, he said, had to be used by the intelligent minorities in order to make sure that the slobs stay on the right course. We can do it now because we have these new techniques.
This is the main manual of the public relations industry. Bernays is kind of the guru. He was an authentic Roosevelt/Kennedy liberal. He also engineered the public relations effort behind the U.S.-backed coup which overthrew the democratic government of Guatemala.
His major coup, the one that really propelled him into fame in the late 1920s, was getting women to smoke. Women didn't smoke in those days and he ran huge campaigns for Chesterfield. You know all the techniques—models and movie stars with cigarettes coming out of their mouths and that kind of thing. He got enormous praise for that. So he became a leading figure of the industry, and his book was the real manual.

—Noam Chomsky

(From Chomsky's "What Makes Mainstream Media
Mainstream": a talk at Z Media Institute, June 1997)


Eta http://www.historyisaweapon.org/defcon1/bernprop.html

Vogon_Glory

(9,125 posts)
4. Bring back the Fairness Doctrine!
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:14 PM
Aug 2020

That’s one way of hobbling lunatic politics. It might not do much about hair-on-Fire lunacy on social media, but eliminating hate radio as background feed would help a lot.

hunter

(38,322 posts)
5. Send all that crap into outer space.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:52 PM
Aug 2020

Require 100% local ownership of terrestrial radio stations with 80% locally produced content.

Same for television.

Concentrate on providing free high speed internet access for all.

I listen to and support my local public radio station. I am not fond of their corporate "both sides" network coverage but there's a lot of other public radio content I do enjoy.

Otherwise broadcast radio and television simply don't exist in my world. I never change the dial on my kitchen radio and our television plays DVDs and Netflix. My wife and I can 'cast other stuff to our television, YouTube videos and such, but we don't.

Do any young people pay attention to "traditional" radio and television? My adult children don't, nor do their cousins. They stream everything over their cell phones and home internet connections. I remember my father-in-laws consternation the first time he tried to watch television in our oldest child and spouse's home. The only thing attached to their television is a Chromecast dongle. I offered to show my father-in-law how to 'cast stuff to the television from his phone, but he decided to read a book instead.

My mom used to be a radio personality working at a station a lot like WKRP Cincinnati. It had local news people, disc jockeys, everything. There's not many radio stations like that remaining.

BannonsLiver

(16,411 posts)
6. Hate radio is the last war IMO
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:54 PM
Aug 2020

As someone else mentioned the real threat moving forward is in the online realm. Podcasts, misinformation etc. There are RWNJ on YouTube with hundreds of thousands of subscribers many of which people have never heard of. They’re just regular garden variety weirdos who have found an audience.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
7. Yes
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 04:18 PM
Aug 2020

And Biden MUST bring back the fairness doctrine and limit corporate control over all media. Owned media is not free media!

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