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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:46 PM Aug 2020

Do you honestly think a jury could be impaneled to convict trump of political crimes?

This question was posed in a response to one of my posts yesterday. And it is a good question.

But for me, the larger question is, does the US operate under the rule of law, or not?

And that question can be answered yes and no. In many cases, there is one law for the rich, and one for the rest of us.

There is one law for the whites, and one for the (now) majority of the US.

There is law for men, and another law for women.

However, these things aside, I feel that Trump, and his crime family, and their associates, should feel the pressure of the Justice Department, at the Federal and local levels, for as long as they all live.

They should all spend their days conferring with their attorneys, and raising funds, and trying to hide their assets, and in general suffering for the rest of their lives.

No, this would not bring back one victim of COVID19, or truly compensate the many victims of Trump's various crimes, but he and his cabal need to live with stress and pressure forever.

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Do you honestly think a jury could be impaneled to convict trump of political crimes? (Original Post) guillaumeb Aug 2020 OP
He has perpetrated plenty of edhopper Aug 2020 #1
Agreed. guillaumeb Aug 2020 #5
Let the SDNY go after him and his business. redstatebluegirl Aug 2020 #2
Yes, Federal and local investigation/prosecution is vital. eom guillaumeb Aug 2020 #6
State or federal? BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #3
they're going to bail.. stillcool Aug 2020 #4
I can't see him actually going to prison unblock Aug 2020 #7
Nor can I. guillaumeb Aug 2020 #8
Impossible SCantiGOP Aug 2020 #9
Trump is a crook. guillaumeb Aug 2020 #10
Don't disagree SCantiGOP Aug 2020 #11
Just get rid of him, he'll die soon anyway Cicada Aug 2020 #12
Well said. guillaumeb Aug 2020 #14
political crimes dont exist. we are not north korea or russia. drray23 Aug 2020 #13

edhopper

(33,597 posts)
1. He has perpetrated plenty of
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:48 PM
Aug 2020

non political crimes he can be convicted of. Wait for his taxes to come out.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
2. Let the SDNY go after him and his business.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:49 PM
Aug 2020

He can't get out of that kind of trouble. Plus it costs his worthless kids money too.

BannonsLiver

(16,411 posts)
3. State or federal?
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:50 PM
Aug 2020

Little chance he leaves office without federal immunity. Have felt for a long time if he loses badly it’s possible he will resign before the inauguration and Pence will pardon him for any crimes he may have committed in office. That doesn’t cover state charges, though.

unblock

(52,277 posts)
7. I can't see him actually going to prison
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:54 PM
Aug 2020

I can see a lot of people who worked for him going to prison.

I can see his kids going to prison

I can definitely see him getting hit with serious civil/tax fines and penalties.

But a unanimous criminal jury verdict, no. Even if caught dead to rights on something completely apolitical, there's going to be at least one, probably more like three or four, jury holdouts who will either believe him or accept reasonable doubt or be convinced there was something corrupt about the prosecution or simply that they figure presidents shouldn't ever go to prison.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
12. Just get rid of him, he'll die soon anyway
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 04:10 PM
Aug 2020

What matters is getting rid of him. The real deterrent for future frauds will be the total disgrace which will surely follow Trump to his grave. 20 years from now his descendants will be in court petitioning to change their last names.

drray23

(7,635 posts)
13. political crimes dont exist. we are not north korea or russia.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 04:10 PM
Aug 2020

however, Trump commited plenty of real actionable crimes where he broke laws. He should be prosecuted for thay.

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