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Is there any meaningful way in which Newt "served" with Rice and Powell? I suppose with Powell you can say "Newt was in Congress when Powell was in the executive branch" but...is there any even vague connection to Rice at all?
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LAMOTHE: My question to you is, do think blacks represent an American problem. And if you dont think that, when you start using blacks in general as a stepping stone or a punching bag
GINGRICH: I didnt say that. I just want to say that frankly this makes me very irritated. The Democratic National Committe took totally out of context half of the sentence, OK? I mean clearly somebody whos served with Colin Powell, who has served with Condaleeza Rice, I have a fairly good sense of the fact that African Americans have many contributions to America.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/01/08/400175/black-man-confronts-gingrich-food-stamps/
Swede
(33,245 posts)nt
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)although he made it in reference to Donald Trump ... who had said "I have a great relationship with the Blacks".
gateley
(62,683 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)former9thward
(32,009 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Amos 'n' Andy were some of his bestest friends...
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Good one!!
Number23
(24,544 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)That's why I don't get what you're saying.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)And that was the point.
Let's see, he "served" with Powell, who ended up resigning from his cabinet position in the Bush II administration in frustration after we invaded Iraq, and Condi Rice, probably one of the most ineffective Sec. of State we've ever had in this country. The woman accomplished nothing. This is akin to someone saying "I'm not a racist, I've got black friends". This twit has no idea about the history of blacks in America and the contributions they have made, and have been prevented from making, which I think is a much more important subject. He is creepy jerk-off and I can't even stand to look at him. (How and when in the hell did he serve with Rice?)
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I'll bet Huntsman does.
LoL
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I'll bet he does, too!
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)去他妈的自己蝾螈
It may literally mean a newt.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Gingrich was a congress creep from 79-99, minority whip 89-95, then Speaker. Frankly, I don't see Powell giving an obese rodent's behind who the House minority whip was; he was playing with the big boys.
Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)Perle was chairman of the Defense Policy Board, appointed so by Bush in 2001.
Newt continued to serve on the board well into 2007.
Perle had been for the invasion of Iraq and the overthrown of Saddam Hussein for years.
Rice was part of WHIG. (White House Iraq Group)
Powell helped to facilitate the invasion of Iraq with his little vial. As a former general, it is improbable to believe Powell knew nothing of the Defense Policy Board or its membership.
The papers Rumsfeld released show that Newt was involved in the lead up to the invasion and later.
I think Newt was referring to the lead-up to the Iraq invasion when he said he served with Rice/Powell in an attempt to make a grasp at anything to temper his earlier remarks. Epic fail.
Still, there is a connection between the 3.
So, I'd say that - Newt is a racist and just digging his heels even deeper - but that he did work with Rice and Powell under the Bush administration in a less than public (at the time) role. I'm sure the WHIG group and Perle's group overlapped during the lead-up to the invasion. Making his contact with Rice greater than his contact with Powell. Fact is, evidence suggest Newt's contact with Rice would have been greater since Powell did voice an objection every now and then. (He still shook that vial though) So, yeah...there is a more than "vague connection" - though I would say they worked together more than served together...though they all 3 served Bush/Cheney.
Bashing Newt is just plain fun and he deserves it - but he still was working behind the scenes in the Bush administration on the invasion of Iraq. (and later)
And, if you're someone who never knew about Perle and Newt working together in the Bush administration or that the documents Rumsfeld released also include Newt's involvement with the Bush administration...maybe it's time you learned. (that's the general you/you're - for anyone that didn't know or forgot)
Defense Policy Board
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/12/international/middleeast/12EXPA.html?pagewanted=all
Richard Perle
http://www.aei.org/scholar/richard-perle-1/
Perle/ letter to Clinton
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/iraq/stories/policy020598.htm
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
Newt
http://www.newt.org/meet-newt
http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=11419
Newt/Rumsfeld papers
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/16/new-rumsfeld-documents-highlight-gingrichs-involvement-with-iraq-war/
Rumsfeld Papers
http://www.rumsfeld.com/
WHIG (White House Iraq Group)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5077403
I don't give anyone a pass on the Iraq invasion.