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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:27 PM Aug 2020

OK, tell me ONE great thing any Republican Administration did in our country's history. Just one.

Under Democratic administrations we:

Won WWII

Went to the moon

Established major civil rights legislation

Established Social Security

Established Medicare and Medicaid

I'm just ticking these off and wondering why this year's election seems difficult for Democrats.

And just what the hell did "small government Republicans" ever do for ANYBODY (except already rich people)?

Just my rant after watching Brooks and Shields tonight. I've been disgusted and angry all day today since Trump just outTrumped himself with me last night or whenever (it doesn't take much).

Gotta be careful with this race thing...the march in Washington is "great" but ya gotta be careful, Dems. Can't look angry, nononono...some people said nasty things to Rand Paul last night, tut tut. SO WHAT???

I've been MAD AS HELL all day. Poor hubby had to listen to my rant after Brooks and Shields tonight. I got the feeling that we Dems and Joe Biden were being given a lecture in not getting so happy that Dems are doing well and Trump is continuing to be a real shithead. But WATCH OUT Dems! Don't be so sure of yourself you're gonna win this thing! NOT ONCE was even "possible" election cheating by the pukes mentioned. NOT ONCE!

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OK, tell me ONE great thing any Republican Administration did in our country's history. Just one. (Original Post) CTyankee Aug 2020 OP
Eisenhower established the US highway system. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #1
OK. I give you that. But were Dems AGAINST those two achievements or had they been pushing CTyankee Aug 2020 #3
Not sure about the highways but they pushed for the EPA. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #4
The Cuyahoga River in Cleveland caught on fire Marthe48 Aug 2020 #7
And that made for H2O Man Aug 2020 #32
The Cuyahoga was disregard Marthe48 Aug 2020 #40
There was a water reservoir H2O Man Aug 2020 #59
Eisenhower drove across the country before there were decent roads. rickford66 Aug 2020 #11
I learned in school it took 11 days to go coast to coast Marthe48 Aug 2020 #16
The Interstate Highway System, along with the accompanying Ron Green Aug 2020 #48
The interstate highway system was an excellent thing StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #65
Mr. Lincoln freed the slaves Marthe48 Aug 2020 #2
I'm thinking about this century and the modern Republican Party which is why I narrowed it. CTyankee Aug 2020 #5
While I'm at it Marthe48 Aug 2020 #10
JFK didn't live to see that all happen. CTyankee Aug 2020 #14
I thought it was all the way back. Sorry. Marthe48 Aug 2020 #12
Liberal Republicans Proud liberal 80 Aug 2020 #6
Yes, Ike upheld the law of the land, which Brown v. Board essentially was. CTyankee Aug 2020 #8
I understand what you are getting at Proud liberal 80 Aug 2020 #13
I'm aware of that history, but I was talking about the modern Republican Party and should have CTyankee Aug 2020 #25
Eisenhower nationalized the State Guard and made Southern schools integrate Hekate Aug 2020 #9
As I said earlier, it was the US Supreme Court who FORCED Ike and Nixon to carry out the CTyankee Aug 2020 #17
Teddy Roosevelt was GOP PufPuf23 Aug 2020 #15
OK, we got a winner in TR! Thank you for reminding me. CTyankee Aug 2020 #19
If you start with the 20th century, the Republicans can boast exactly one great president DFW Aug 2020 #63
Betcha Trump is trying to get rid of the National Park System even as we speak. Whaddya think? CTyankee Aug 2020 #64
If anyone were to explain to him what it is, I'm sure he would. DFW Aug 2020 #66
I read that he was chosen as McKinley's VP Marthe48 Aug 2020 #23
And the official name of the Bull Moose party Wednesdays Aug 2020 #46
TR & trust busting irisblue Aug 2020 #67
Nixon created the EPA, DeminPennswoods Aug 2020 #18
OK. Glad to give them that! CTyankee Aug 2020 #21
Yeah, Nixon would be considered a flaming liberal these days. ananda Aug 2020 #22
That's for sure! DeminPennswoods Aug 2020 #24
He also signed the Endangered Species Act of 1973 al bupp Aug 2020 #34
Well, Lincoln emancipated the slaves and won the Civil War. ananda Aug 2020 #20
that's about all I came up with also. rurallib Aug 2020 #27
TR Was Also A Trustbuster ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #44
Nixon gave right turn on red... Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #26
How did he do that? CTyankee Aug 2020 #28
I think that was after Nixon was gone and also at the state/local level unblock Aug 2020 #29
US Grant suppressed the KKK anamnua Aug 2020 #30
The thread title has (sort of) reminded me of the famous Monty Python clip anamnua Aug 2020 #31
I think the better question that needs to be asked is what has trump and the republicans still_one Aug 2020 #33
My point (besides being a rant) was just what use the damn repuke party has been to us ever? CTyankee Aug 2020 #35
I know still_one Aug 2020 #36
Eisenhower dawg day Aug 2020 #37
I was reminded here that he saw the autobahn built and what it meant to the people of CTyankee Aug 2020 #38
I believe Bush the first did the Human genome project in 1990 Johonny Aug 2020 #39
Nixon and the opening to China. DavidDvorkin Aug 2020 #41
Yep and it was about time. Perhaps only Nixon COULD (safely politically) open China. No CTyankee Aug 2020 #43
Some commentator said at the time that only Nixon could have gone to China DavidDvorkin Aug 2020 #53
So a republican president gets "points" for finding China on a map... CTyankee Aug 2020 #56
Well, that's more than the current Republican president could do. DavidDvorkin Aug 2020 #60
Philadelphia Plan DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #42
I can't help but notice that the GOP hasn't done anything "good" in almost 50 YEARS tenderfoot Aug 2020 #45
that was essentially my points and I admit I overlooked "some" rather nice things the pukes CTyankee Aug 2020 #49
That's okay, you're allowed to be in a bad mood. SharonClark Aug 2020 #52
I think the Kenosha thing just got to me. Hubby is from Wisconsin and the son of proud union CTyankee Aug 2020 #55
They're hell bent on destroying all that is SharonClark Aug 2020 #51
Nixon--EPA tblue37 Aug 2020 #47
Do you think Nixon was truly "on board" with the EPA or was it a "handwriting on the wall" kind CTyankee Aug 2020 #50
George H.W. Bush championed,supported and signed into law Harkins Americans with Disabilities Act. Autumn Aug 2020 #54
Yes, and he was a good man, perhaps one of the last in his party... CTyankee Aug 2020 #57
The last sane Republican. Autumn Aug 2020 #58
Little things like hardluck Aug 2020 #61
Just saying... I think the scope of the question should have been limited to the GOP In It to Win It Aug 2020 #62

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. OK. I give you that. But were Dems AGAINST those two achievements or had they been pushing
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:30 PM
Aug 2020

for them all along?

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
32. And that made for
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 09:10 PM
Aug 2020

the opening of Vine Delotia's classic, "We Talk, You Listen." He noted that Indian people had never even thought about making a flaming river.

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
40. The Cuyahoga was disregard
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:24 AM
Aug 2020

Industry didn't think about consequences then. We are making progress. Corporations think of consequences as an afterthought. Maybe someday, they'll think of consequences before they begin.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
59. There was a water reservoir
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:13 PM
Aug 2020

in Delaware County, NY, where some genius decided was a prime area to dump toxic industrials wastes. After initially dumping directly into the small lake, he moved in about a hundred yards away. Eventually, it became a 130-acre Superfund Site. One afternoon, a fellow driving by tossed his cigarrette butt out the window. It landed in the lake, and the surface of the lake caught on fire. Amazing.

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
11. Eisenhower drove across the country before there were decent roads.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:35 PM
Aug 2020

I believe it was at the direction of the Army. He used this experience, plus seeing the German Autobahn, as the reason to build the Interstate Highway System.

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
16. I learned in school it took 11 days to go coast to coast
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:41 PM
Aug 2020

I learned that in grade school, and after all this time, hope the right number stuck in my head.

My family drove between Cleveland and S.E Ohio all through the 60's, through the construction of I77. When we first started taking the trip, it took 6 hours to get from just south of Cleveland to Monroe County. Now, it takes about 2.5 hours.

Later, we would drive from Ohio to Myrtle Beach over I77 through WV, and it took years for them to build that road.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
48. The Interstate Highway System, along with the accompanying
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:24 AM
Aug 2020

suburban development and urban highways, is one of the worst events in the history of this country. The car-centric world is so much a part of our culture that it’s almost impossible to discuss it.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
65. The interstate highway system was an excellent thing
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:10 PM
Aug 2020

However, the way the infrastructure was designed and sited - for example, going almost exclusively through poorer, minority neighborhoods, thereby destroying and cutting off entire communities and, as you noted, creating it with only automobiles in mind - was the problem.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. I'm thinking about this century and the modern Republican Party which is why I narrowed it.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:31 PM
Aug 2020

The Democratic Party was the slave party in those days, nothing like the Dem Party of the 20th century and the 21st so far.

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
10. While I'm at it
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:34 PM
Aug 2020

nixon was in the White House when we landed on the moon.

I know that the Space Race was underway many many years before nixon.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. JFK didn't live to see that all happen.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:38 PM
Aug 2020

I detested Nixon. I realize he pales in comparison to Trump (so does Bush, who I thought was a war criminal). but even they didn't fleece us, rob us, strip us.

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
12. I thought it was all the way back. Sorry.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:37 PM
Aug 2020

The Dems adopted a civil rights plank in the mid 40's (or so) and alienated the dixiecrats, and as time went on, other segments of American voters. Seems to me that the parties have both done a 180 since I was young.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
6. Liberal Republicans
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:31 PM
Aug 2020

Lincoln and TR did great things, but that’s when the parties were flipped ideologically. Eisenhower’s freeway system imitative was great and I believe without looking it up, he sent the national guard down south to protect black students after the brown vs board education decision

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
13. I understand what you are getting at
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:37 PM
Aug 2020

But I like the labels liberals vs conservatives over Dems vs Reps.....all of the Dems of the 19 century sucked and would be Republicans now (and the current Republican Party act like we have to claim them), and even up to FDRs time the Republicans were better than the Dems...of course things changed because of Truman’s, JFKs, and LBJ stance on race

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. I'm aware of that history, but I was talking about the modern Republican Party and should have
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:46 PM
Aug 2020

been clearer. I was talking about the 20th and 21st centuries.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
9. Eisenhower nationalized the State Guard and made Southern schools integrate
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:33 PM
Aug 2020

Of course, as GOPpers like to remind us all, Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves. Unfortunately, they have to dishonor that achievement every day.



CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. As I said earlier, it was the US Supreme Court who FORCED Ike and Nixon to carry out the
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:41 PM
Aug 2020

suprme Court decisions on race. And that was when a lot of southern Dems became repukes, no surprise there.

PufPuf23

(8,790 posts)
15. Teddy Roosevelt was GOP
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:39 PM
Aug 2020

TR was a trust buster (what we need now among so many other issues).

TR Roosevelt established the United States Forest Service, signed into law the creation of five National Parks, and signed the 1906 Antiquities Act, under which he proclaimed 18 new U.S. National Monuments. He also established the first 51 bird reserves, four game preserves, and 150 National Forests. The area of the United States that he placed under public protection totals approximately 230 million acres (930,000 square kilometers).

DFW

(54,405 posts)
63. If you start with the 20th century, the Republicans can boast exactly one great president
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:00 PM
Aug 2020

That was Teddy Roosevelt. Establishing the National Park System was truly revolutionary. Can you imagine what places like the Grand Canyon, Crater Lake, Bryce Canyon, Zion, the Everglades, Cape Cod National Seashore, Big Bend, Yosemite, Acadia, Rocky Mountain NP, Glacier, Yellowstone, and SOOOO many others would be if they had all been open to development between then and now?

Add to that one of the greatest quotes from any American President of the 20th century:

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

Show that to any Republican today, and they'll tell you it must have been said by a "kommanist." Nope, just an intelligent, patriotic Republican--an extinct species.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
64. Betcha Trump is trying to get rid of the National Park System even as we speak. Whaddya think?
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:04 PM
Aug 2020

DFW

(54,405 posts)
66. If anyone were to explain to him what it is, I'm sure he would.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:11 PM
Aug 2020

If anyone were to come to him and say they want to start an open pit mine in Yellowstone National Park, his response would probably be, "so what's stopping you?"

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
23. I read that he was chosen as McKinley's VP
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:44 PM
Aug 2020

to keep him under wraps. Then McKinley was assassinated and TR soared as a progressive. He also ran for president representing the Bull Moose party.

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
46. And the official name of the Bull Moose party
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:22 AM
Aug 2020

was the Progressive Party!

Gives you an idea of TR's political philosophy. The GOP regulars hated him.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
18. Nixon created the EPA,
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:41 PM
Aug 2020

signed the Clean Water Act and proposed SSI, which Congress passed. His admin also implemented the first affirmative action plan and extended the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

al bupp

(2,179 posts)
34. He also signed the Endangered Species Act of 1973
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 09:18 PM
Aug 2020

Quoting Wikipedia:

The U.S. Supreme Court called it “the most comprehensive legislation for the preservation of endangered species enacted by any nation.”

ananda

(28,866 posts)
20. Well, Lincoln emancipated the slaves and won the Civil War.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:42 PM
Aug 2020

And Teddy Roosevelt was wonderful on conservation.

That's all I can think of right now.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
44. TR Was Also A Trustbuster
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:17 AM
Aug 2020

The codification of those moves were incomplete during his terms, but he did cause a lot of concentrated money to be broken down.

anamnua

(1,113 posts)
30. US Grant suppressed the KKK
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 09:03 PM
Aug 2020

Albeit temporarily. Hard to believe it but back in those days the Repubs were the goodies and the Dems were the baddies.

anamnua

(1,113 posts)
31. The thread title has (sort of) reminded me of the famous Monty Python clip
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 09:07 PM
Aug 2020


Please don't interpret this as a defence of the Repubs by the way!

still_one

(92,219 posts)
33. I think the better question that needs to be asked is what has trump and the republicans
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 09:12 PM
Aug 2020

accomplished in the last three and three quarter years?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
38. I was reminded here that he saw the autobahn built and what it meant to the people of
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 10:29 PM
Aug 2020

Germany, after all the destruction of WW2. He must have seen the Interstate highway system as the destiny of the country, in terms of its greatness. He knew that great things were required to be considered a great leader and he strove for it.



Johonny

(20,851 posts)
39. I believe Bush the first did the Human genome project in 1990
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 10:40 PM
Aug 2020

His son passed Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act (GINA) 2008. Both were probably good things. Bush also did the prescription Drugs thing which laid a crappy framework that has slowly improved under the ACA, but still isn't great. There was also his work on Malaria in Africa.

Reagan did some gun control. Almost any good Reagan did was overwhelmed by all the historic mistakes we're still paying for.

I was looking for things in the modern GOP as opposed to 19th century or Ike-Nixon era when there was a strong liberal-moderate wing of the GOP. In general the two Bushes are so removed from the modern party, they almost seem as foreign as Ike and Nixon. And W wasn't that long ago!

About the only thing I can come up with for Trump ERA Republicans is his modest criminal justice reform and Space Force. Space Force is probably a real stretch at this point but might turn into something useful under a real president.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
43. Yep and it was about time. Perhaps only Nixon COULD (safely politically) open China. No
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:10 AM
Aug 2020

Democrat at that time could advocate that and survive politically.

Facing reality is, I guess, something we can all applaud...yeah...

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
53. Some commentator said at the time that only Nixon could have gone to China
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:30 AM
Aug 2020

For a Democrat, it would have been political suicide.

tenderfoot

(8,437 posts)
45. I can't help but notice that the GOP hasn't done anything "good" in almost 50 YEARS
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:20 AM
Aug 2020

And that Ronald Reagan erased all the positives.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
49. that was essentially my points and I admit I overlooked "some" rather nice things the pukes
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:26 AM
Aug 2020

did, after the ideas behind them had been "normalized" to the extent that they could safely come out of their caves to support them.

Yeah, I'm in a bad mood.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
55. I think the Kenosha thing just got to me. Hubby is from Wisconsin and the son of proud union
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:38 AM
Aug 2020

people. We have friends, very liberal Dems, from Kenosha. It's so personal to him and to our friends, still in WI but now retired in Door County. They must be abject.

I am surprised how demoralizing this has been to me (I know, "poor me" and that's making me angry too...).

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
50. Do you think Nixon was truly "on board" with the EPA or was it a "handwriting on the wall" kind
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:27 AM
Aug 2020

of realization?

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
54. George H.W. Bush championed,supported and signed into law Harkins Americans with Disabilities Act.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:35 AM
Aug 2020

That was one good thing.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
57. Yes, and he was a good man, perhaps one of the last in his party...
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:41 AM
Aug 2020

he couldn't have seen a Trump presidency coming...

hardluck

(639 posts)
61. Little things like
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 03:27 PM
Aug 2020

The 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, defeating the South in the Civil War. I mean seriously. I get your point but let’s not be blind to history.

In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
62. Just saying... I think the scope of the question should have been limited to the GOP
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 03:40 PM
Aug 2020

as we know it today which started in like the 60s and 70s.

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