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pwb

(11,276 posts)
1. That is why we need better police. Make the police great again.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:21 AM
Aug 2020

Police are not a click and should not have inside methods ready to use against Americans.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
2. So he put on the gloves later, interesting...
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:26 AM
Aug 2020

The police is directly responsible for this. They didn't only allow this escalation by not sending these armed goons back, they actively encouraged and enabled them. If there was a curfew, surely it was for everyone. But no, they threw gasoline into the fire. What were they thinking?

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
3. There are more white supremacist cops than are being reported.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 07:16 AM
Aug 2020

I used to run with state cops back in the 60's when the cops would have a drink with you after their shifts. I played in a golf league with state cops. With that said, I personally knew about 8 of them and 6 of the 8 were racist. With that said, I lived in an area that only had about 1% minority population.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
4. A Dangerous Escalation
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 07:53 AM
Aug 2020

Cops sympathetic to right-wing nutjobs is a perpetual risk. Why? Because policing requires physical force.

The brains of cops must be the target of de-escalation efforts. And since brains are controlled by peer pressure, protesters must evolve to different methods.

At this stage, they must separate the good cops from the bad cops ideologically. That’s the counterattack right now by Trump—lump in good protesters with bad, lump in good cops with bad.

Accuse Republicans of lumping in bad cops with good, accuse Republicans of painting the police force as a bunch of rogue lawbreakers. Accuse them of exactly what Trump wants police to be—dumb political goons. Ask law enforcement if they like being used as ignorant political goons and see how it changes the conversation.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
5. WTF kind of country do we live in that teenage boys can roam the streets with military
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 07:57 AM
Aug 2020

weapons? That's just crazy. If the police are so fucking afraid they have to recruit militia members, it's time the guns are banned.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
8. +1000
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:28 AM
Aug 2020

That's my question also. They weren't even trying to conceal what they were intending.

This is just so unsettling. Where were the police at the time these two were roaming the streets?

This country must get control over the sale of these military style weapons. No one needs to own these guns.

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
9. Good luck with the banning, especially if Rump is re-elected
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:49 AM
Aug 2020

SCOTUS will go to 7-2 or even 8-1(Sotomayor has really bad chronic diabetes) hard RW.

The US Constitution will prove to be a suicide pact by 2040 max, at multiple, fatal levels. 250 year run (a blink in time) and out. Just for starters, the EC, the Senate, and the too powerful, non accountable office of POTUS (Trump has exposed how impotent Congress is to stop an imperial POTUS) are prime examples. I always laugh when people (across the poltical spectrum) hold up the framers as infallible and god-like.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
6. I read that he is being represented by
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:19 AM
Aug 2020

Rudy Guilliani's lawyer? What is the connection there, between a high priced lawyer from NY or DC, and a kid from a small town in Illinois? Is Rudy behind some of these infiltrators at the demonstrations? We know the damage is being done by white power freaks and Nazi sympathizers. Who is behind all this carnage, so tRump can claim that the blacks are out of control?

niyad

(113,336 posts)
10. A friend told me that the nra in CO donated to this white domestic terrorist's defense fund. Not
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:58 AM
Aug 2020

sure if it was the state or a local chapter of gunhumperd.

IcyPeas

(21,889 posts)
17. Yes the lawyer has defended Guliani and...
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:19 PM
Aug 2020

Carter page and

Nicholas Sandmann from Covington high school.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
7. The Rethuglican Party
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:26 AM
Aug 2020

is now a criminal cabal. We have one chance to fix this. Trump wins and the USA as we knew it will never again exist.

W_HAMILTON

(7,868 posts)
14. It is legal to brandish a rifle like that on the streets in Wisconsin?
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 07:32 PM
Aug 2020

I know some states have open carry, but there are still usually laws against brandishing a weapon like that in public.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
16. What is wrong with the United States?
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:14 PM
Aug 2020

A 17 year old can run around in a crowd with a loaded assault weapon?

moondust

(19,993 posts)
18. Open Carry strikes again.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:10 PM
Aug 2020
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If a person is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm, it is legal to carry any legal firearm openly in Wisconsin.
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Under Wisconsin statutes that say anyone under 18 who "goes armed" with any deadly weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor, Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, was not old enough to legally carry the assault-style rifle he had.

But John Monroe, a lawyer who specializes in gun rights cases, believes an exception for rifles and shotguns, intended to allow people age 16 and 17 to hunt, could apply.
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https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/26/wisconsin-open-carry-law-kyle-rittenhouse-legally-have-gun-kenosha-protest-shooting-17-year-old/3444231001/

Allowing anyone to openly carry an assault rifle (or any other firearm IMO) is madness. I'm not sure why anyone overseas would want to risk their life coming to the U.S. even for a visit.
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