Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

doc03

(35,346 posts)
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 07:59 AM Aug 2020

I keep hearing the polls are neck and neck and it's going to be a

close election. But according to the Economist it is predicting Biden 347 to Trump 191 electoral votes and they give Biden an 88% chance of winning and Trump at 12%. I don't know how this site has done in the past but it gives a more optimistic view of the election than Nate Silver or the MSM.

https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president

33 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
I keep hearing the polls are neck and neck and it's going to be a (Original Post) doc03 Aug 2020 OP
Never, ever underestimate corruption from tRump and his minions. FarPoint Aug 2020 #1
I agree Trump has to be crushed and once he is out of office he has doc03 Aug 2020 #5
Our Democratic Campaign is in critical care management level... FarPoint Aug 2020 #20
Never underestimate the number of bigots Tom Traubert Aug 2020 #8
Keep on pushing as though you're either 2 points behind. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2020 #2
We should behave as if we were 5 points down, from now secondwind Aug 2020 #3
I'd much rather people think the election was close than.... WePurrsevere Aug 2020 #4
Did they factor in the russian cheating and the destruction of the post office? spanone Aug 2020 #6
Agree with all we can't have this "She got this" and "Your concern is noted" doc03 Aug 2020 #7
most important, are the polls based on people who vote, or on what RazzleCat Aug 2020 #9
I agree with your assessment. It may very likely come down to one of several states, but we still_one Aug 2020 #12
predictions are NOT the election. The polls indicate that the race is tightening up. still_one Aug 2020 #10
This. We need to be a lot louder about these things. And then there's this: Squinch Aug 2020 #11
I am not surprised, and have always been concerned with the "undecided" voter still_one Aug 2020 #13
The numbers are bigger than I thought though. Squinch Aug 2020 #14
This should be a motivating factor to get Democrats out to vote, and the fact that so many still_one Aug 2020 #15
Absolutely. Our lives depend on what we do between now and November. Squinch Aug 2020 #16
+1. Trump is the source of the violence and Dems need to pound this. radius777 Aug 2020 #19
No doubt about it. Biden and Harris have to keep repeating that message at every opportunity still_one Aug 2020 #21
We must work harder. Volunteer for your local DNC, Democratic legislators/congress person. OrlandoDem2 Aug 2020 #17
the mysterious "I hear some polls" posting, I heard democrats were going to lose house seats in 2018 beachbumbob Aug 2020 #18
Just out number the Trumpians at the polls. BlueJac Aug 2020 #22
It's a conservative but honest and reliable periodical. MoonRiver Aug 2020 #23
Should we pay any attention to the polls this time around? kentuck Aug 2020 #24
Ignore all polls. GOTV dalton99a Aug 2020 #25
All that matters at this point is GOTV!! Alacritous Crier Aug 2020 #26
Nate Silver predicted Hillary would win with 301 electoral votes lostnfound Aug 2020 #27
I trust the economist, I do not trust 538 anymore! Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #28
MSM needs a horserace llashram Aug 2020 #29
The media has to have it neck and neck treestar Aug 2020 #30
538 is playing it safe. BlueWavePsych Aug 2020 #31
NEVER EVER EVER depend on polls ¡ ! ¡ ! ¡ ! littlemissmartypants Aug 2020 #32
Treat it like it's going to be close: that is, work your butt off for our side struggle4progress Aug 2020 #33

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
1. Never, ever underestimate corruption from tRump and his minions.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:01 AM
Aug 2020

I want a full force voting assault this Election....No wiggle room, landside voting if we can even cast a vote....

doc03

(35,346 posts)
5. I agree Trump has to be crushed and once he is out of office he has
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:07 AM
Aug 2020

to be totally discredited. The Democrats need to pursue every legal case there is against him. Trump has to go down as the most corrupt incompetent president in history or we may have Jr. next time.

 

Tom Traubert

(117 posts)
8. Never underestimate the number of bigots
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:13 AM
Aug 2020

Who are ashamed to admit that they’ll vote for Trump when asked but will cast their votes for him when the election comes.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
2. Keep on pushing as though you're either 2 points behind. . .
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:03 AM
Aug 2020

. . .or 2 points ahead.

some advice from the ragin' Cajun James Carville.


WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
4. I'd much rather people think the election was close than....
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:07 AM
Aug 2020

think Biden would win easily. Overconfidence isn't motivating and we NEED a much higher number voting for BIDEN to overcome the cheating that is being done by the 'Con and Putin.

Plus I want the message to be loud and clear, with a friggin' BLUE tsunami, that the vast majority of Americans do NOT approve of all the horrid BS Trump, his enablers, this RW 'Con party and Cult45 are pulling.

doc03

(35,346 posts)
7. Agree with all we can't have this "She got this" and "Your concern is noted"
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:10 AM
Aug 2020

that many of us got back in 2016. On the bright side all the Republicans I know which is just about everyone around here are
claiming Trump will win in a landslide, I hope that suppresses their vote.

RazzleCat

(732 posts)
9. most important, are the polls based on people who vote, or on what
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:19 AM
Aug 2020

people who don't vote say.

I live in an area that's pretty red, don't think for one minute that Trumps supporters have left him. Don't think that the mail in ballots will not be contested. Don't think that what people say is what they will do. This election will be closer than you think.

I hope its a Biden blow out, I assume its going to go down to one state such as Florida.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
12. I agree with your assessment. It may very likely come down to one of several states, but we
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:24 AM
Aug 2020

only need one of them to win the electoral college


still_one

(92,217 posts)
10. predictions are NOT the election. The polls indicate that the race is tightening up.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:21 AM
Aug 2020

The republicans strategy is to label the looting and violence as part of the protests. That is a LIE

The Democrats, Civil Rights leaders, and the BLM movement has made it clear that the looting and violence is NOT part of the their protests or movement, and in fact many of those involved in the violence and looting are part of outside right wing groups

Pence tried to associate the killing of a DHS guard in Oakland with the BLM movement. THAT WAS LIE. The person who killed the DHS guard is part of the Boogaloo Boys, a far-right anti-government extremist movement. That same person was also charged with the killing of two Santa Cruz law enforcement people.

The Democrats need to call the republicans out on these lies, and they need to do it strongly and repeatedly.

The fact that an incumbent president has to campaign in states that were once thought a sure win for him, indicates they are in trouble. That is why they are working so hard to suppress the vote, lie, and distort the facts. We have to all push back on this


still_one

(92,217 posts)
15. This should be a motivating factor to get Democrats out to vote, and the fact that so many
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:29 AM
Aug 2020

republicans have publicly come out endorsing Biden/Harris is a positive sign

but nothing can be taken for granted. Never could be





radius777

(3,635 posts)
19. +1. Trump is the source of the violence and Dems need to pound this.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:37 AM
Aug 2020

Biden was strong yesterday when he said 'Trump is rooting for violence.. this is Donald Trump's America.. throwing gasoline on the fire.'

This is exactly the correct angle - turn it around and blame him for it - he is the president and swing voters always blame those in power.

Everyone knows (even many who support him) that he is the divider-in-chief who is the source of anger and division in this country

We need to pound this message: Trump divisive/responsible for chaos and covid / Biden calm and empathetic who will restore sanity and decency. Biden and Harris also have law and order records and are the farthest thing from 'anarchy'.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
21. No doubt about it. Biden and Harris have to keep repeating that message at every opportunity
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:01 AM
Aug 2020

That is why I don't understand why some are saying Biden shouldn't debate trump. I think it is imperative for him to do so. The opportunity to call out his lies to his face is important for all to see


OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
17. We must work harder. Volunteer for your local DNC, Democratic legislators/congress person.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:34 AM
Aug 2020

Do not pass go. Go directly to one of these offices and signup to volunteer!

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
18. the mysterious "I hear some polls" posting, I heard democrats were going to lose house seats in 2018
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 08:37 AM
Aug 2020

according to "some polls"

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
24. Should we pay any attention to the polls this time around?
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:11 AM
Aug 2020

People just need to vote, by mail or in person, or drop their ballot in a drop box. Just vote.

Thekaspervote

(32,775 posts)
28. I trust the economist, I do not trust 538 anymore!
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 10:38 AM
Aug 2020

Nate Silver is a self proclaimed libertarian and is no longer doing unbiased accurate polling.
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/30/nate-silver-making-he-goes

Also look at moody analytics. They have accurately predicted every election correctly since 1980, less 2016

llashram

(6,265 posts)
29. MSM needs a horserace
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 10:38 AM
Aug 2020

to keep those advertising $$$ rolling in and those ratings high. Plus CEO's of the major MSM outlets, what political party are they allied to? All I have to think about is trumps Facebook BFF Z=Suckerberg

BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
31. 538 is playing it safe.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:51 PM
Aug 2020

When 538 shows Biden favored to win, it is 72% or higher. Under 71%, 538 gives '45' a 1/3 chance, per their simulations.

Mathematically, if you have a 1/3 chance to win, accepting a 'double or nothing' challenge improves your odds of winning the war over 1000s of battles. As such, 538 shows Biden only 'slightly favored' at 69% or thereabouts. JMHO

littlemissmartypants

(22,692 posts)
32. NEVER EVER EVER depend on polls ¡ ! ¡ ! ¡ !
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:40 PM
Aug 2020

It's GOTV time.

All polls are garbage polls.

The only thing that we can count on is actual voters.

It's all about the GOTV push now.

❤ lmsp

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»I keep hearing the polls ...