I still believe the Con will withdraw from the election

[malaise]

when he realizes there is no way for him to win. He'll probably announce that he has Covid-19 or some new illness a la his bone spur lies to escape Vietnam.

The next 67 days will be something else - Cohen's book, the book on Melania and then there are several more of those fifteen hours of delicious details from Mary's recording of MaryAnne. I have a feeling they are saving the best for last.

And more and more rats will be jumping off his sinking ship.

ByeDon! Just begone!

[apcalc]

1. We can hope!

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Beg to differ with you with respect.

Trump would find the opportunity to reek havoc and try to destroy the country with his minions to be irresistible. He feeds on mayhem and chaos. And the same result if he has to leave the WH by choice or compulsion: back to Mar-A-Lago and Trump Tower.

[GoneOffShore]

35. And I hope Mar-A-Lago becomes the 21st century Villa Belmonte

[GoneOffShore]

63. Thanks for your concern.

But no.

[Wednesdays]

61. Eh, I was thinking more like The Berghof

Hitler's infamous alpine retreat.

[GoneOffShore]

64. Well, okay, but the bunker in Berlin would be better.

[calguy]

3. Don't count on it.

As bad as we've seen from trump up to now, I don't think we've seen the worst yet. Far from it. His evil knows no depths and he knows what he's facing once he leaves office. He'll fight tooth and nail with everything he's got until the last minute.

[Sherman A1]

12. Agreed

I believe that you are correct

[idziak4ever1234]

4. I wish I had your confidence. I walk around constantly with a sick feeling in my gut

[Ohiogal]

19. Me, too, idziak4ever.

Trump yard signs everywhere around here. Ohio is full of idiots, apparently. I hope and pray some other states pick up the slack.

[llashram]

54. true, yet

Biden/Harris signs sprouting up around here. Have not seen a trump sign, yet.

[Generic Other]

5. Pretty Please with Sugar!!!

I am soooo on edge constantly. Frayed nerves across America. It's like any relief will do...

[NCjack]

6. I agree. If his props fail for the stock market, I think he will desert to a safe haven.

[Amishman]

36. If you are feeling confident, Trump dropping out would pay out 30:1 on PredictIt

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/6799/Will-Donald-Trump-drop-out-before-November-1

[Squinch]

7. I just tried reading Mary's book. I'm a big reader, but I couldn't finish it, it was so dismal.

That horrible family is so full of sickness and evil.

[still_one]

18. I am half way through it. It is fascinating how much trump and his family have gotten away with

A lot of this I lay at the feet of much the media. They helped create a false image.

[malaise]

22. You know what I wonder

How many other wealthy and connected folks are getting away with similar criminality?

[still_one]

28. I think quite a lot

[empedocles]

38. falwells kind to mind?

[Squinch]

24. Yes. Very much. I don't know of any other President who was borne into office on the

media's shoulders with absolutely no vetting. Just because he was "good tv." The irresponsibility of that is epic. Some are now trying to do their jobs, and I appreciate that, but they are also a big part of the cause of all this misery.

I come from a NYC construction family. (Little company, defunct for the past 15 years, but we were often subcontractors to the subcontractors on big NY construction jobs.) Trump left a huge and public trail of bodies behind him wherever he went since the 80s. I kept waiting for that to come out during 2016 and it never did.

[PJMcK]

20. My wife agrees with you, Squinch

She read Mary's book this week instead of watching the RNC. She was completely disgusted by the stories of the Trump family.

After her verbal reviews, I've decided not to waste my time on the book. Frankly, there's nothing anyone can tell me about Trump that I don't already know or suspect.

The man is evil incarnate.

He's also an idiot.

[Squinch]

25. You will probably have heard most of the surprising new information. But the grinding senseless

cruelty that was the hallmark of the family was truly depressing.

I am glad she wrote the book, but I don't think you are making a bad decision not to read it.

[beachbumbob]

8. nope, gop/his hopes all hinge on russia and voter suppression on a a massive scale, I still

take the odds WE PREVAIL

trump will never drop out

[Iliyah]

9. Plus, he is not at all healthy . . .

both mentally and physically. He is messed up and fucking up the country.

[malaise]

23. Yep - he may even croak

between now and November 3

[smirkymonkey]

72. If only!

[Klaralven]

42. This health doesn't matter. Ivanka and Jared will run the Presidency

Like the last year and a half of Woodrow Wilson.

[Celerity]

10. They think the fix is in, he will never withdraw. nt

[honest.abe]

11. I was thinking that also but he is in a desperate situation.

The office of President it the only thing that protects him now from the numerous lawsuits out there. Resigning doesnt really help him unless he can get some sort of immunity deal from the Feds and also from the states.. eg NY. I doubt that will happen.

[Sherman A1]

14. Agreed

[malaise]

15. I thought about that but he'll croak

before they lock him up - his spawn won't be that lucky

[still_one]

13. I don't know where you are coming up with the statement that there is no way for him to win

There certainly is.

The polls are tightening up

While I think he will lose the popular vote, the electoral college is going to be close

It will come down to 5 critical states, and we need to win one or two of them to clinch it

[malaise]

16. No one who is responsible for close to 300,000 deaths is going to win an election

CDC says there will be 200,000 dead in two weeks.
Add to that the reality that the institutions are standing up to him - he will not and cannot win.

[still_one]

27. 57% of republicans believe that the deaths from Sars Co V2 are acceptable, and

64% of the republicans believe the number of deaths reported is a false number

10% of Democrats in that CBS poll said the number of deaths is acceptable.

73% of republicans said the way the U.S. is dealing with it is going well, and 27% of Democrats agreed with that statement

I think you are giving too much credit to a good segment of the American public.

[Iliyah]

32. Anti t-rumpers said no matter what, the USA has at least . .

35% of Americans who are down right crazy.

Majority of Americans disprove of the way t-rump and administration and republican party are handling COVID-19 and know it is not a hoax and the deaths are real.

As in 2016, which was stolen, his focus is on the EC, period. He knows that an fair election would oust him.

As mentioned above, he is not healthy and it is catching up with him and no amount of medications can avoid this outcome. He is suffering, and karma is a bitch.

[still_one]

34. I was thinking about 40%. It is alarming when you think that at least that amount of the

population are either outright racists, or have no problem supporting someone who is a racist, sexist, and bigot

[empedocles]

39. After nixon's resignation, majorities said they never voted for nixon in '72.

[Polybius]

66. The public doesn't believe he's responsible for all 182,000 deaths

He's abysmal, but no matter who was in charge we'd have some deaths. In European countries with great leaders there are some (but lesser) deaths as well.

[mnmoderatedem]

76. worse yet

he has ~40% of the country would will not ever, ever hold him accountable for anything. No matter what.

[GoCubsGo]

17. I wish this was the case, but unfortunately,

what we're going to see is the lunatic behavior of a cornered animal. He's not going to quit. He's going to burn down the country our of sheer spite and hatred. And, because that's what Putin ordered him to do. He's just getting revved up now.

[LisaL]

21. He is not going anywhere.

NT

[JI7]

26. He will never admit to any weakness even if it's clear. He will make up some shit about how he is

sacraficing for others by stepping down because the evil democrats something something something.

Whatever it is will be made to try to make him appear in a positive heroic light while blaming the other side for being unfair .

[Atticus]

29. "From your lips----" nt

[helpisontheway]

30. He will not drop out. He will try to win at all costs.

He is terrified about the possibility of going to jail. He will want to delay it another four years and hope that Pence wins so he can issue a pardon.

[Fiendish Thingy]

31. Never happen- he's not running for re-election, he's running to stay out of jail nt

[Buckeyeblue]

33. At a certain point he can't drop out

I think at a certain point if he thinks he won't win, he will take as many Republicans with him as he can. He'll try to tank it all. His rationale will be that Republicans are not grateful for all he did for them, so they don't deserve to keep their seats if he loses.

[empedocles]

37. At some point, as various types jump off the ship, it seems there could be a big

break, a deluge. Big chunks of support, just break loose. In some kind of future retrospect, the suburban women may started breaking away over some incident or revelation. [Methinks].

[Dave Starsky]

40. No way. Not even. It's prison or a courtroom for the Trump family...

The minute he leaves office, for the rest of all their natural days.

The presidency is the ONLY thing keeping from drinking pruno out of a cell toilet, and he well knows it. He will NEVER leave under his own power. Ever.

[malaise]

44. Not if he gets to be with the brother he claims to love so much

[duforsure]

41. If his taxes get released or other exposure of crimes with Putin

He will leave with pence giving him and his family blanket pardons, which won't stand .

[Silent3]

43. Possible, but on the other hand...

1) Trump is desperate to avoid prosecution that's certainly headed his way if he loses. He might get a pardon from Pence if he both quits the election and resigns from office, but there's still likely plenty of New York state prosecution that Pence can't pardon Trump for.

2) Using whatever hold Putin has on Trump, Putin wants Trump to cause maximum chaos. Going through with the election, losing, and then refusing to accept that loss, produces maximum chaos.

[North Shore Chicago]

45. His ego

will not allow him to quit. This behavior goes deep in the trump family, doll-hands is feeling fred's wrath even just thinking about it.

[Alacritous Crier]

46. I'm still at...

about 40% in my belief that he will drop out. That is down quite a bit from a few months ago. I do think it is still a real possibility with the correct chain of events. As mentioned above, he could blame it on a health crisis or something similar. Maybe he'll do the whole country a favor and drop dead.

We'll see...



GOTV!

[MineralMan]

47. I think he will wait until he loses the election.

Then, he will resign, be pardoned by Pence, and disappear from public view. He will "profoundly" accept a pardon from Pence.

[malaise]

49. Bwaaaaaaaah for the profoundly

[MineralMan]

59. I Knew You'd Notice, Somehow...

[malaise]

60. Hahahahahaha

He's the quintessential ignoramus

[thucythucy]

48. Neither Trump nor his supporters care about anything written in a book.

They don't read, period, and they have an insatiable urge to denigrate those who do as "eggheads" and "elitists."

The inability or unwillingness by tens of millions of voters to read anything longer than a bumper sticker or a Facebook post is a major factor in the ongoing failure of our democracy.

The only way to reach these people, if there is any way at all, is to dumb down the discussion to the point of absurdity. The GOP is willing to do that, easier for them too because they're willing to lie outright.

As for Mary Trump's recordings, from what I've heard of them thus far (admittedly not much as yet) the poor audio quality alone will have Trumpeters dismissing them outright. When it comes to anything digital or visual, slick production values are all that count.

And they always have violence as a last resort. Trump is perfectly fine sending others to kill and die to stay in power and stay out of prison.

I think things in general will get much much worse before we see the end of this regime.

[TheCowsCameHome]

50. dupe - sorry

[TheCowsCameHome]

51. I want to see him so debilitated that he

can't possibly win, but not so much that he can't suffer horribly knowing full well that he has zero chance of continuing.

[malaise]

57. Same here

[edhopper]

52. I think you are very wrong

as he looks more and more likely to lose he will pull out all the fascist stops. Closing Post Offices, stealing mail in ballots, closing polling places.
People have to stop thinking he won't do whatever he thinks he has to.

[Thekaspervote]

53. One can hope. I really don't care if he resigns b4 or after...but the sooner the better

[Beringia]

56. He is like the creature in Alien, it will take this crew to get rid of him

.webp

[fescuerescue]

58. Well he better hurry up

Ballots are being locked in in many localities.

[greytdemocrat]

62. Never happen. n/t

[Polybius]

65. I disagree, because in 2016 he believed there was no way he would win

I'm sure in his mind he believe the polls are wrong. We'll see.

[Sogo]

67. FWIW, astrologers are saying he will be out of the picture

by the election. He will appear to be gaining momentum until September 20, and then everything will change.

Don't know how much stock can be placed in that, but it seems to be a case of : stay tuned and buckle up!

[themaguffin]

68. NO he will NOT and we MUST be diligent. trumpers are rabid.

[0rganism]

69. interesting idea - if he doesn't withdraw what does that tell you?

i happen to agree with your premise: if Trump knew he couldn't win he'd bow out. it hasn't happened yet.

of course, he's far from the brightest bulb on the tree, so it's entirely possible he simply can't understand but there's another possibility too.

[milestogo]

70. No. That's not what narcissists do.

[liberalla]

71. And supposedly (hopefully) Don Winslow has some October surprises!

[malaise]

74. Can't wait for that one

[Drunken Irishman]

73. You assume he actually thinks he's going to lose.

Trump is totally in denial. He cherry picks polls that are favorable to him and fires those who tell him he's losing. I have no doubt Trump fully believes he's going to win.

[malaise]

75. We'll see

[ecstatic]

77. Not when prison awaits him and his spawn

All of them know that prison is the next stop. He's not going to voluntarily walk into that.

[Jose Garcia]

78. That was also a popular theory four years ago