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Floyd R. Turbo

(26,549 posts)
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:12 AM Aug 2020

Passenger sues easyJet after crew told her to move seats to satisfy ultra-Orthodox Jews


A British-Israeli woman is suing easyJet after the low-cost airline asked her to move seats on a flight from Tel Aviv to London following objections from ultra-Orthodox Jewish men who refused to sit next to a female passenger.

Melanie Wolfson, 38, is claiming 66,438 shekels (almost £15,000) compensation in a lawsuit filed on her behalf by the Israel Religious Action Center (IRAC), which won a similar case in 2017 brought against El Al, the Israeli national carrier.

Wolfson, a professional fundraiser who moved to Israel 13 years ago and lives in Tel Aviv, is also asking that easyJet bans its cabin crew from asking women to switch seats because of their gender.

According to the lawsuit, Wolfson paid extra for an aisle seat on her flight last October. An ultra-Orthodox man and his son, who were sitting in the row when she arrived, asked Wolfson to switch seats with a man a few rows ahead.

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Passenger sues easyJet after crew told her to move seats to satisfy ultra-Orthodox Jews (Original Post) Floyd R. Turbo Aug 2020 OP
Guess Mother doesn't let them sit near women... ExciteBike66 Aug 2020 #1
Exactly. They want to make these demands, then let them PAY for it! hlthe2b Aug 2020 #3
Religion is a blight on humanity Yeehah Aug 2020 #2
THIS malaise Aug 2020 #4
Yep. nt frogmarch Aug 2020 #9
+100 Spot on! abqtommy Aug 2020 #17
It's the ultimate control mechanism lunatica Aug 2020 #22
I wouldn't have minded moving to another seat as a simple courtesy StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #5
What's the courtesy though? Proud liberal 80 Aug 2020 #7
What if it was white nationalist MAGAts who told me to move Celerity Aug 2020 #8
What if they asked you to move because you were black? yardwork Aug 2020 #12
yup, no difference obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #24
Sorry, the snowflakes are the ones who can't handle sitting next to another human being. MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #19
The snowflakes are the ones who think everyone should kowtow to their religion BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #20
Exactly! Dr. Strange Aug 2020 #21
well played obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #25
bless your heart obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #23
Hope she wins. Fuck their bullshit. Celerity Aug 2020 #6
fundies are knuckle-dragging morons, regardless of religion Tarc Aug 2020 #10
Amazing how some people think it is ok Phoenix61 Aug 2020 #11
Sexism. yardwork Aug 2020 #13
including folks in this thread obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #26
It's bc women are told to shut up and placate men. Oneironaut Aug 2020 #28
This is exactly what happens when one give religious people privileges to not follow generally dsc Aug 2020 #14
Since she is originally from the UK, she should have told them MineralMan Aug 2020 #15
Since the ultra-Orthodox Jews were the ones making demands in derogation of women's rights Mr. Ected Aug 2020 #16
This. nt eppur_se_muova Aug 2020 #18
Exactly. Why was she expected to move? crickets Aug 2020 #27

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
22. It's the ultimate control mechanism
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:17 PM
Aug 2020

It relies on fear of the unknown. Actually it’s more than fear. It’s inculcated terror.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. I wouldn't have minded moving to another seat as a simple courtesy
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:23 AM
Aug 2020

This is a little too snowflakey for me.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
7. What's the courtesy though?
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:27 AM
Aug 2020

Can you move because we don’t want to sit next to women? It would have been courteous if they asked her to move so that they could sit next to a family member, but not for the reason that they gave. If they had a problem sitting next to women then they should have bought the entire row.

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
8. What if it was white nationalist MAGAts who told me to move
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:32 AM
Aug 2020

because I am part black? Would you call me a snowflake if I told them to go fuck themselves?

I cannot change my biological makeup, same as she cannot change her gender.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
12. What if they asked you to move because you were black?
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:37 AM
Aug 2020

What's the difference between being asked to move because you're a woman vs. being asked because you're black?

Should Rosa Parks have agreed to move?

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
20. The snowflakes are the ones who think everyone should kowtow to their religion
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 12:22 PM
Aug 2020

In public spaces, on airplanes etc. If they can’t handle it they need to find another mode of transport. The aircraft isn’t their house or their place of worship.

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
21. Exactly!
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:09 PM
Aug 2020

It's just a simple courtesy. No different than sitting in the back of the bus or using a different water fountain.

God damn snowflakes!

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
10. fundies are knuckle-dragging morons, regardless of religion
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:35 AM
Aug 2020

Jew, Christian, Islam, no ground should be ceded to any of them.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
11. Amazing how some people think it is ok
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:36 AM
Aug 2020

to ask the woman to move but would flip the fuck out if the men didn’t want to sit next to a black person or an Arab person etc

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
28. It's bc women are told to shut up and placate men.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:53 PM
Aug 2020

This is especially true when religion gets involved. We have to inconvenience ourselves so that men don’t have their fragile feelings hurt.

We get this everywhere - on flights, in the workplace, in public, etc.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
14. This is exactly what happens when one give religious people privileges to not follow generally
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:38 AM
Aug 2020

applicable law. In principle this is no different than if a Klan member wanted to make non white passengers move (after all the Klan had chaplains). This gets debated as being possibly OK while my hypothetical is rightly rejected as an insane thing to let happen. There is no principled difference.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
15. Since she is originally from the UK, she should have told them
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:40 AM
Aug 2020

"Bugger off, you old sots!" when they demanded she move.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
16. Since the ultra-Orthodox Jews were the ones making demands in derogation of women's rights
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 09:45 AM
Aug 2020

The woman should not have been the party moved, but rather, the radicals constrained by centuries-old and long-outdated dogma.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
27. Exactly. Why was she expected to move?
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:39 PM
Aug 2020

I know the answer to that question, but still. The airline should have moved the men and left her alone.

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