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edhopper

(33,587 posts)
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 10:30 AM Aug 2020

Donald Trump will do anything to win

We just saw him violate law after law using the his office and the Government for his own re-election. He moves with impunity in his own interest. Without consequence. If you don't think he will disrupt voting and use any agency at his disposal to stop people who might vote against him, you aren't paying attention. He has already crippled the Post Office which will hamper mail in voting. Why not confiscate ballots which he deems questionable? Why not send DHS thugs to close polls. (All it will take is some of the 50,000 "poll watchers" the GOP is sending out to start a riot here or there). He's a fascist, why would he not act like one?
Call me alarmist, call me unrealistic, but show me where he hasn't acting in a lawless, self-serving way.

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Donald Trump will do anything to win (Original Post) edhopper Aug 2020 OP
That's what he wants to do. MoonRiver Aug 2020 #1
Hopefully we have more coming from the Dem side. Seems like that longterm Dem empedocles Aug 2020 #5
It won't matter if Democrats vote in record numbers. We especially need POC and the youth! OrlandoDem2 Aug 2020 #2
Doesn't it bother you edhopper Aug 2020 #7
Yes! But let's do what we gotta do. OrlandoDem2 Aug 2020 #9
Anyone who still doubts that is a fool. dalton99a Aug 2020 #3
And yet I see edhopper Aug 2020 #8
Everything you posted is true... Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #4
Our success will require an all hands, all out effort. We'll get it done. nt oasis Aug 2020 #6
According to his niece and his sister he is capable and willing to do anything to suit his desires. Ford_Prefect Aug 2020 #10
nearly four years in, the lines are drawn, no regurgitation required, y'know? bringthePaine Aug 2020 #11
Maybe Traildogbob Aug 2020 #12
Just have to disrupt a few in key places edhopper Aug 2020 #15
Yes Traildogbob Aug 2020 #18
If this is true, that he will do anything to win, then he should johnnyfins Aug 2020 #13
Find out the requirements in your state for polls watchers. Lonestarblue Aug 2020 #14
And when the Government in States like edhopper Aug 2020 #16
He will do all this at the last minute so there's no time to protest it. Kablooie Aug 2020 #17
You are not alarmist. You are not unrealistic. You are entirely civilized and appropriately logical ancianita Aug 2020 #19
Donald Trump will do anything to win.....except STFU Nitram Aug 2020 #20
Your concerns are well warranted in my opinion. warmfeet Aug 2020 #21
And there is little hope edhopper Aug 2020 #22
Correct. warmfeet Aug 2020 #23

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
1. That's what he wants to do.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 10:34 AM
Aug 2020

My hope is that in his state of diminished capacity, he will be unable to pull it off. Of course there are scum like Kushner and Miller to help things along, but ultimately it's in Idiot's hands. He'll blow it, imho.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
5. Hopefully we have more coming from the Dem side. Seems like that longterm Dem
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 10:42 AM
Aug 2020

strategy has been, as the Covid/economy realities hit more trumpers, public sentiment will be more attentive. Guess here, is after school bad openings hit mid September - Dems open up, with hearings, indictments, arrests, ?

Weakened trump and trumper allies. Rats jumping ship.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
7. Doesn't it bother you
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 11:47 AM
Aug 2020

that we have to win in overwhelming numbers just to stop him even though he will lose the majority vote.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
10. According to his niece and his sister he is capable and willing to do anything to suit his desires.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 12:48 PM
Aug 2020

That means winning at any cost so long as other people pay that cost. Which means we have an unrestrained sociopath who's going to do anything he can think of, or his enablers think of, to stay in power. Anything at all. He has no conscience and is incapable of feeling shame. Which is to say he is Mitch McConnell's evil twin.

Traildogbob

(8,748 posts)
12. Maybe
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 12:56 PM
Aug 2020

Veterans across the country that are crippled, Lost friends in battle and served to protect democracy (at least we were told that) And the basic right to vote, can stand to protect voters from Trump thugs. See what happens when they attack vets. I had no right to vote in late 60’s but sure had a draft number to go die. I will gladly stand at my polling station to protect THAT right we fought for on our home grounds
We protested, got beaten and even killed by National Guard to allow us to vote when we can go to die. Fuck Trump and the GOP.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
15. Just have to disrupt a few in key places
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 12:59 PM
Aug 2020

look at WI and MI last time.
The point is in America, we shouldn't be worrying about the President destroying Democracy. But he will try.

Traildogbob

(8,748 posts)
18. Yes
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:10 PM
Aug 2020

We are certainly showing the world why we attack their countries to bring them democracy. Liberators!!
That’s us!

johnnyfins

(823 posts)
13. If this is true, that he will do anything to win, then he should
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 12:57 PM
Aug 2020

be baited at every turn. Make him live with his feet in his mouth. That said, I think Kamala is going to torture the living shit out of him.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
14. Find out the requirements in your state for polls watchers.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 12:59 PM
Aug 2020

I researched Texas and found that the state has definite requirements. I will print a copy and take it with me when I vote. In this state, poll watchers must wear a tag identifying them and carry a certificate of their appointment. They may not challenge a voter in line or directly. They must work through an election official at the polling station.

I am unclear about the use of law enforcement because the state guidelines do not cover that. I plan to email my county clerk to ask about this. Most of my county (Travis/Austin) is unlikely to have many poll watchers, but it’s possible that precincts with majority Hispanic residents would. I’m hoping to get information out through the local Democratic Party.

Trump will target voters in swing states, so anyone in states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, and Florida needs to know the rules for poll watchers. And even in those states, his poll watchers will be sent only to minority precincts.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
16. And when the Government in States like
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:01 PM
Aug 2020

FL and GA assist him. Since both those Governors stole their own elections?

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
17. He will do all this at the last minute so there's no time to protest it.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:03 PM
Aug 2020

And once his tactics eliminate eliminate enough democratic votes for him to be declared president there will be no way to contradict it. People will take it to the courts but Thats a waste of time. Even if they decided the election was illegal trump won’t concede.

ancianita

(36,071 posts)
19. You are not alarmist. You are not unrealistic. You are entirely civilized and appropriately logical
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:18 PM
Aug 2020

It's entirely reasonable to expect the worst from this dicktater.

He's a scofflaw who disrupts, cripples, confiscates all normal democracy. He's a lawless mobster thug -- everything you say.

Keep saying it. Especially on any social media platform.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
21. Your concerns are well warranted in my opinion.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:41 PM
Aug 2020

Ultimately, I believe he will claim victory even if the votes show he lost decisively. Election fraud will be his claim. He will bring legal action with the hope it goes to the supreme court.

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