'The fix is in': Internet hits the panic button after Trump intel head refuses to meet with Dems on

[SheltieLover]

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/the-fix-is-in-internet-hits-the-panic-button-after-trump-intel-head-refuses-to-meet-with-dems-on-election-security/

‘The fix is in’: Internet hits the panic button after Trump intel head refuses to meet with Dems on election security
Published 3 mins ago on August 29, 2020By Tom Boggioni- Commentary

News that Donald Trump’s Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe has informed Congressional lawmakers that he will no longer provide them with one-on-one briefings to discuss ongoing election security issues was met with outrage on Twitter on Saturday afternoon with many speculating it is part of Donald Trump’s plan to steal the election.

Coming on the heels of Trump Post Master General Louis DeJoy’s attempts to interfere with mail-in voting by disrupting U.S. Post Office operations, many claimed the Trump administration is using every tool at its disposal to rig the election.

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[lastlib]

1. How do we STOP this FUCKER??

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[SheltieLover]

4. Not sure

[SheltieLover]

6. States where his spawn have committed crimes

Could lock them up & not let them out because they are flight risks.

I highly doubt this will happen.

[smirkymonkey]

7. +1000

I really feel like I am going insane. I can't take this anymore. It is SOOOO fucked up!

[DownriverDem]

23. Exactly

The polls are tightening. I'm bummed.

[bonniebgood]

59. polls are tighten is BS as well. Thats M$M and internets BS

[Illumination]

11. Feel your anger lastlib! Since 2016, but especially NOW with corruption upon corruption! This

is looking more like Nazi Germany than the U.S....

[Missn-Hitch]

66. Read "In The Garden Of Beasts" by Eric Larsen

You are correct in your assessment.

[Illumination]

67. Will check it out. Thanks Missn-Hitch.

[triron]

70. And it will get worse unless we (not us here) wake up.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

20. It can't be said.

[cayugafalls]

24. ...

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

28. +100

[KentuckyWoman]

30. There is no legal way to stop him except voting.

[mdbl]

49. not true

the asshole repugs in the senate could get the house to run another impeachment and get rid of his sorry constitutional law breaking ass! Why arent people protesting their homes?

[KentuckyWoman]

50. Won't happen. Ever.

Senate Republicans support him. Period.

Taking back the Senate requires voting ... which is why I believe it all comes down to that.

[mdbl]

68. I was just commenting oin the "no legal way" part of that post

It could be done, doesn't mean it will be.

[tinrobot]

31. More nuclear bomb and anger emojis?

[orangecrush]

35. ...

[Celerity]

32. this is not an answer many will like, and I certainly hope it does not go there, but if Rump and

the Rethugs are able to pull off getting him SWORN IN as POTUS again, even if it is the result of a massively stolen (and on so many levels it will make our heads spin) election, then it quite likely would come down to extra-constitutional actions (an example would be a military coup d'état). This (needing extra-constitutional means) is even more likely if, through their stolen election, they also retain the Senate and, nightmarishly take back the House.

You have to always remember, this is NOT at all being gamed out and implemented solely by the buffoonish con-man Trump. There are people and forces FAR more intelligent and clued-in than he is, who are manipulating all this, and no it is NOT just Russia. A good way to put what I am trying to say is: take quants, like those from the banking sector, give them the same (or more) computing power and even more, FAR more data resources, and tell them to game out the steps to effect (meaning cause or bring forth) an indirect quasi-constitutional coup themselves.

[FakeNoose]

37. The military hate him, they'd never back a coup

They want to be rid of him as much as we do. Besides the sensible Republicans wouldn't let it get that crazy. Take heart, it's not going to happen. The good guys are going to win.

[Celerity]

40. you are reversing what I said

2 points

1. The coup would, in my scenario, be against Trump (and thus it would be wholly extra-constitutional). That scenario is only dealing with my first part, where I posited what might be the only way to get him out IF he is sworn-in again as the result of a brazenly stolen election.

2. If you are referring to my use of 'coup' in the last part, that was meant to describe what Trump has and is doing NOW. It is not military in nature at all, it is quasi-constitutional (meaning twisting and ignoring parts of the constitution as well as previously-held norms and actions, but still paying lip service to legitimacy, still selling it as a proper and legal series of actions) and is indirect in nature. There is no military involvement aiding him in this.

[FakeNoose]

43. Sorry - I did read your post incorrectly

If a coup is taking place, as you say, it's Russians or other Putin-backed forces that are making it happen. The idiotic Republican Party cannot even see how they have enabled this. I don't believe any "sensible" Republicans would ever favor this, it's only the ones who have been bought by Putin.

They are a minority, in any case.

[Nexus2]

41. Its not just him, its Trump and his gold painted clown car full of enablers.

[BigmanPigman]

46. I have the feeling that the only way to really stop him

is for something to happen to him similar to drinking tea made by Putin.

[lastlib]

58. I wouldn't shed a tear if he ate a polonium Big Mac sammich......

but I'd prefer to see a mob do a Mussolini number on him. More, um, democratic....?

[BigmanPigman]

69. Yes, I'd like a public viewing of it too...

He lives for high TV ratings....if something like that were on live TV he'd have the biggest ratings of his lifetime.

[rockfordfile]

51. get out and vote

[rwsanders]

54. Personally I believe any solutions discussed so far are entirely useless.

It is time for a formal group and it could be the DLC to go to the UN and ask for monitored elections the way it is done in developing nations.
Without observers there will be no way to challenge the legality of the election.

Ultimately if things are bad enough we may have to find people who can form a government in exile until they can be installed in Trump's place.

NORMAL WON'T WORK NOW!

[Grasswire2]

56. The UN no longer monitors elections. Alas.

But the Carter Center has announced that it intends to do so.

[gulliver]

64. Vote. Tell others to vote. Donate to GOTV.

[gristy]

2. One work-around might be to subpoena Secretaries of State from across the country

and start asking questions. I imagine they are already in communication with Dem SOS's.

[dchill]

3. Everyone needs to know the correct spelling of "Ratcliffe..."

Right?

[calguy]

22. I think the correct spelling is ...

Ratfuck

[MontanaMama]

27. Thank you for fixing that.

[Kaiserguy]

29. K&R

Also Ratfink

[dchill]

44. There it is.

[Wednesdays]

60. Ratigan!

[Hoyt]

8. Briefings in writing should be sufficient, assuming briefings are truthful and detailed.

[Lonestarblue]

13. Nothing in the Trump administration is truthful.

The question is whether someone in the White House will review all written briefings first to delete information that would alert Democrats to election interference.

[Midnight Writer]

19. You can't ask questions of a briefing paper.

It's like a doctor sends you a letter saying he has detected cancer, but he will not speak to you beyond written correspondence.

[Squinch]

26. I lulzed.

[flying_wahini]

9. How about paper ballots with a carbon copy?

[jimlup]

12. That assumes recounts happen....

Remember that they were blocked in 2016.

[Grasswire2]

57. Don't laugh.

Three part NCR carbon paper has been used in some emerging democracies.

We all know what it looks like. One copy to the voter, one to the ballot box, and the other to archive as protection.

[jimlup]

10. Don't take ANYTHING for granted as we move towards November

Assume the Russians are actively and directly trying to steal the election for Trump.

Remember How we felt the awful morning in 2016. It COULD happen again and if it happens this time we'll know we've lost our democracy.

[ancianita]

17. Exactly. BUT we must also act in unexpected ways. Get information from Intel agency professionals.

We don't need no stinkin' Ratcliff.

We need to ACT when things like this happen.

Others will come forward if he won't.

[orangecrush]

36. This is it

Game time.

[ancianita]

14. Other Intelligence personnel can give direct info to Democrats.

Doesn't matter what form. They can bring documents, get fired, and others can come forward to take their place before Nov 3.

All's not lost just because Trump has shut one door.

[Mme. Defarge]

15. Merci!

I needed that.

[ancianita]

16. We need to stay focused. Not react. Not be afraid. If this Republic is worth it, we'll remember that

Tactics can be met with tactics.

Professionals came forward during impeachment. They can come forward again. Their futures are as much at stake as are the futures of the rest of us.

[Mme. Defarge]

18. Exactement!

[Cha]

38. Sigh.. TY.. we do need some ideas.. not just

doom & gloom.

[ancianita]

39. We need to refuse to be reactive, get our heads INTO the Home Stretch now and fight like hell.

[Cha]

42. Yes! I like this response from HawaiiDelilah..

Link to tweet

D

[RVN VET71]

21. "Speculating"? No. Everything they do is to help the loser, Trump, steal the election

Everything. the entire RNC was part of it, with no platform, no promise of policy changes to right the course, with its pretense that the plague was over, that violence and vandalism are all on Biden, that the police are the best of us, the protesters the worst; DeJoy is part of it and the only way that he stays out of prison now is if he doubles down on destroying the USPS' ability to process ballots; Barr is a big part of it with his "no, no, look over here!" investigations that turn up nothing but distract from the evidence of the plan to steal the election. Every thing they do is part of the plan.

And I'm not giving us more than a 50-50 chance of prevailing.

As it looks now, especially seeing what happened in Kenosha, there will be blood. That's not a pessimistic prophecy, it's part of their plan. The more of us they lure into the streets to protest and fight, the more of us they will be able to kill and arbitrarily imprison, and the more the can do that, the easier for them to consolidate power and ensure that future Trumps* will win "elections" by the authoritarian required 98%.

*as in Donnie and Ivanka

Vote for Joe but keep your powder dry.

[jaxexpat]

45. Are we reading the same tea leaves? My view is remarkably similar.

Americans are so accustomed to elections interpreted as sea changes in response to voter choice. That scenario has been more difficult to support over the years but especially since 2000. It's very uncomfortable recognizing that the trend is an actual proof that the U.S. is parading down an obvious path toward totalitarianism. As we sit in our relative comforts the forces that want total and unrestricted control over our society are making their final moves. It's a close thing, to be sure, but the difference between their unqualified success and putting it off for another few years is very much in their tolerance.

[tableturner]

25. We will NOT stop this, just like almost everything else!

[40RatRod]

33. Agreed. It will take a complete house cleaning come Jan 20....

...and the house I speak of is Trump's house and all his lackeys.

[CaptainTruth]

34. If Trump steals the election America will look like Belarus, but with a 2nd Amendment.

It won't be pretty.

[Rabrrrrrr]

47. Given that Trump won't even cooperate on this, the Biden transition will have nada help.

Unlike every other transfer of power, I predict that - even above the shenanigans and shit that Trump will pull when he loses - that his administration will offer absolutely nothing to Biden in the transfer of power.

The childish fucker can't even manage to cooperate in keeping the election secure, I have no expectations that he'll cooperate in the power transfer.

The GOP, who went apeshit about Clinton's people taking out W keys on computers, will look a total blind eye to Trump refusing to give Biden anything. And they'll probably steal all the office furniture and computers.

On the other hand, this administration has been such a shit show, even if they wanted to cooperate they probably wouldn't have anything to offer. I can't imagine that Trump lets people keep much in terms of paper copies or evidence of anything. He seems to work on a mostly "never write stuff down" mantra.

It's gonna take months just for Biden and his people to figure out what the hell is going on.

[SheltieLover]

48. Right!

Total cluster!

Joe & his team will get it done IF we can stop chumputin from stealing election AGAIN.

[hadEnuf]

52. This isn't an election coming up, it's the final push in a war and we need to treat it like it is.

Trump is the culmination of the right wing Reagan revolution and their 40 years of work. Of course Trump is considered an asshole by most in his own party, but he is merely the means to an end. He's a shameless POS who will do what the GOP themselves haven't dared to do but have desperately wanted for decades.


The Marquis of Queensberry rules​ really have to be dispensed with while fighting these fascist bastards. They must not be allowed to destroy this democracy.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

53. "...he will no longer provide them with one-on-one briefings to discuss ongoing election security

issues."

In all fairness,
The article doesn't say he is refusing to brief members of Congress. He just won't do individual briefings.
So, wouldn't the key be to have him give briefings to more than one of them at a time? This seems like much ado about nothing. Frankly, for lawmakers to insist that he brief them one at a time, when it is convenient for them, is not an efficient use of the Director's time or taxpayer dollars.

We can't be angry at every damn thing.

[freepotter]

55. Look again

Look at Rep. Schiff's statement again. He says that all briefings have been cancelled, including the ones scheduled for the House and Senate Intelligence Committees.

[Ligyron]

61. Yeah, Nancy and Chuck wouldn't be so upset if that's all it was.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

63. Thanks. I misunderstood.

[Ligyron]

65. NP, glad to offer clarity.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

62. I see. The article wasn't clear on that but I get it now. Thank you.