News flash! The tenor singing "Nessun Dorma" at spanky's arrival in Lake Charles

[fierywoman]

can't hit the notes either -- that "Vincero" at the end is supposed to be a high "C" -- this guy is singing a B-flat (I have a digital tuner next to me.) (Meaning, he took the whole aria down a whole step. Now and then a tenor takes it down a half step, but a whole step???)

[hlthe2b]

1. I can't bear to listen to that sung badly. Maybe we should have retired it with death of Pavarotti.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. Others have sung it well; it's much too good to retire.

But it's one of those arias that really isn't for amateurs, sort of like the Queen of the Night's second aria in The Magic Flute. Those are the opera equivalents of pitching for the Yankees in the World Series. If you can't sing it well don't do it at all, at least not in public. It figures that His Lardship would hire a second-stringer, probably couldn't get anyone else.

[hlthe2b]

7. I'm being half facetious. But, I do not like it performed badly.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Like I said - not to be attempted by amateurs.

They'll botch it and everyone will notice.

[fierywoman]

16. I played Turandot at LA Opera ("world premiere" of the new ending) and the second tenor in the

production (chosen by Placido Domingo, who was the artistic director of the company at the time) -- everyone knew he was incompetent before the performance, but Domingo "couldn't be reached" (...ri-i-ght ..) to get rid of him. At the performance, no one applauded his Nessun Dorma -- wow! That was shocking.

[Aristus]

27. There's a tenor who sings for Tacoma Opera who absolutely nailed it.

He's incredibly gifted, and has sung at The Met. But he mostly does smaller regional companies, and is a Tacoma-native. He did a blistering rendition of Nessun Dorma at a fund-raiser last year. He killed that high note like it had talked about his mama. The audience, including me, couldn't decide whether to applaud, or wipe the tears from our faces, and, awkwardly, had to do both.

A bad Nessun Dorma is still endurable. But a perfect Nessun Dorma makes you glad to be alive. And in these times, that is desperately needed...

[fierywoman]

28. Then I know you'll appreciate Jonas Kaufmann's slip during his sixth encore at a recital at

La Scala:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

36. Oops! Great singing, though that was a B and not a C.

Kauffman did an amazing Siegfried at the Met - there's a Heldentenor if there ever was one.

[MLAA]

2. Impotus drags everything and everybody down with him, music is no exception!

[Jeebo]

3. Is that the one from early in the third act of Turandot?

One of my favorite Puccini operas, but I haven't seen it in a while.

-- Ron

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Yes, and it was popularized by Pavarotti, whose widow strongly objected

to the Trump campaign's use of his recorded performance. Puccini probably would have objected, too.

[Aristus]

34. Everyone with two ears and good taste in music objects to him using it.

That's why Trump's in-house band is Ted Nugent and Kid Rock.

[fierywoman]

17. Yes.

[underpants]

5. Holda hold it. Their is someone singing at a hurricane destruction tour

So with the signing of Hallelujah the other night - is this a thing with the campaign.

[Swede]

9. Carl Orff - O Fortuna Carmina Burana would be more apt, with this Trump shitshow.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

15. Or this:

[fierywoman]

18. Ha hah ha -- I'm with you on this choice!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. "Day of wrath, day of mourning,

See fulfilled the Prophet's warning,
Heaven and earth in ashes burning."

Yeah, that works for Trump.

[C_U_L8R]

21. Saturday Night at Castle Merde Largo

[hatrack]

22. I'd suggest this, which you may remember from "The Shining" . . .

"Hello, Danny. Come play with us. Forever and ever and ever and ever . . . "

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

38. Yeah, Penderecki can always brighten your day.

[nuxvomica]

10. Doesn't it translate as "no one can sleep"?

In that case, it's the perfect theme song for Trump's tenure.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. These are the lyrics in English:

Nobody shall sleep!...
Nobody shall sleep!
Even you, oh Princess,
in your cold room,
watch the stars,
that tremble with love and with hope.
But my secret is hidden within me,
my name no one shall know...
No!...No!...
On your mouth, I will tell it when the light shines.
And my kiss will dissolve the silence that makes you mine!...
(No one will know his name and we must, alas, die.)
Vanish, o night!
Set, stars! Set, stars!
At dawn, I will win! I will win! I will win!

Of course it's completely irrelevant except that His Lardship likes the last word, vincero, meaning "I will win."

[Drahthaardogs]

30. Not a terrible translation

But a bit colloquial

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

31. Not mine. My Italian vocabulary consists mostly of food names.

[Drahthaardogs]

29. Literally,

No one sleeps.

[MuseRider]

11. This make no sense to me.

Aside from the tacky use of this incredible piece of music why? Let no one sleep or something like that, about the princess being dead? That is what I recall but I have not seen it for several years and the last production I saw was so stunning visually that I kinda just let myself fall into it without thinking.

I hate that they would use this very famous and emotional piece. It was my brothers favorite opera, he worked with the Houston Opera and various smaller opera companies in the area. I played Turandot in his headset as he was dying because I knew he would want to hear that last of all. At his musical memorial in Houston one of the big shots in opera there sang that. I can barely listen to it without tears.

Why this? Why now? Why at the RNC? And really, why with an amateur who has to change the key? I thank god I do not have perfect pitch. I have a great sense of pitch but not perfect thankfully.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. Yes, see #13.

The princess Turandot, who is asleep, has vowed that she will kill everybody if she can't guess the prince's name by morning. Calaf, the prince, is waiting for morning and sings "I will win," vincero, which is the only reason those numpties are using the aria.

[fierywoman]

19. The beauty of spanky using Nessun Dorma -- is the EVERYBODY knows his name and therefore

he will be killed by the princess in the morning !!!

(Wasn't the challenge that he had to answer her three riddles (which he did) and therefore he won the right to marry her. But he gave her an out: if she could guess his name, he'd let her off the hook.)

[abqtommy]

23. No big. When preparing for a trombone solo I've rearranged the score to compensate for my

ability. Let's focus on the Asshole tRUMP...

[Doremus]

24. If anybody finds a link can you please post it.

I've looked to no avail. Thanks.

[russiamommy]

25. Does anyone believe that his supporters listen to opera?

🎶😂

[MuseRider]

26. Tribute to Al Capone

At 2:44 of the video you see Capone tearing up listening to Nessun Dorma, they whisper something in his ear and his sad turns into a happy. Just thought of this, makes me chill watching it.

[NotANeocon]

32. Check out this 15yo young woman singing that aria1

If you have never heard of Amira I assure you you'll be impressed by her voice.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. Sorry, not impressed. She has a mature-sounding voice for her age, but

her breath control isn't very good - she's too young to have developed the strength to maintain the line that aria requires - and she's screechy on the highest notes. If she doesn't ruin her voice trying to sing things that are too hard for her she might be good someday. Kids that young shouldn't be doing that level of opera any more than Little Leaguers should be trying to play major league baseball, because they'll blow out their arms. Same goes for the voice. A good opera singer is an athlete.

[fierywoman]

35. Top note's a B-flat wavering 40 cents or so on each side of the pitch.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

37. Screechy, too.

She doesn't have the training and strength to keep the note out of her throat and support the tone, which is also why it wavers as well as screeches. There are no child prodigies in opera for a good reason.