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How has he gotten so far, unchecked? (Original Post) Laffy Kat Aug 2020 OP
We are nice, ethical, and ineffectual. We LET him get away with it! tableturner Aug 2020 #1
Repugs are not nice and ethical. That party has become the party of cheats and crooks... brush Aug 2020 #14
How did Hitler get so far unchecked? Because there were people who The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #2
The cultural rot has been in progress for decades BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #3
Mary Trump's book explores this in her book. A good part of it was so many people ignoring his still_one Aug 2020 #4
Just watched Rick Steves special on PBS about Fascism. Grammy23 Aug 2020 #5
Kompromat -- follow the money jmellman Aug 2020 #6
I hope I live along for the whole truth to come out. Funtatlaguy Aug 2020 #20
Unchecked propaganda elleng Aug 2020 #7
The Republican Party.. stillcool Aug 2020 #8
+++ You betcha! abqtommy Aug 2020 #11
Democrats incorrectly assume the Republican party views Russia as the "enemy." sop Aug 2020 #13
republicon voters are still supporting their Senators. When their poll support changes, empedocles Aug 2020 #9
Norms. The American political system largely depended on them. OnDoutside Aug 2020 #10
Two things in my opinion. A senate that is complicit Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #12
Death by a thousand cuts. sarcasmo Aug 2020 #15
It reminds me a little of the Ricky Gervais movie where the world doesn't know what a lie is. gulliver Aug 2020 #16
I saw that. I enjoy RG's work. Laffy Kat Aug 2020 #19
I liked it too. Also made me think of Trump. Funtatlaguy Aug 2020 #21
the Founding Fathers envisioned a rogue piece of shit like Trump Skittles Aug 2020 #17
watch netflix, "Fear City" onethatcares Aug 2020 #18
I'm afraid to watch that right now. Laffy Kat Aug 2020 #23
take breaks, leave it alone for a day or two onethatcares Aug 2020 #25
Bribery and blackmail Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #22
Republicans. Castiel Aug 2020 #24
It's not just him. He has support from others to continue with this shit. JI7 Aug 2020 #26
The shithead Republicans in Congress wouldn't stop him raccoon Aug 2020 #27

brush

(53,784 posts)
14. Repugs are not nice and ethical. That party has become the party of cheats and crooks...
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:53 PM
Aug 2020

not to mention racists and misogynists.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
2. How did Hitler get so far unchecked? Because there were people who
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:22 PM
Aug 2020

attached themselves to him because they saw the potential for great power and wanted to be part of it. Without people like Goebbels and Goering and Himmler, Hitler wouldn't have gone anywhere. Without Barr and McConnell and Graham and a whole bunch of other supine Senators and appointees, neither would Trump.

BannonsLiver

(16,395 posts)
3. The cultural rot has been in progress for decades
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:23 PM
Aug 2020

It didn’t start with Dump and it won’t end with him either.

still_one

(92,216 posts)
4. Mary Trump's book explores this in her book. A good part of it was so many people ignoring his
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:23 PM
Aug 2020

ineptness, and the media was right there perpetuating the myth

Even in 2018 when The NY Times finally exposed the fraudulent activities and deceptive tax schemes, I don’t recall it hardly making a ripple

I am so glad Mary Trump has recordings

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
5. Just watched Rick Steves special on PBS about Fascism.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:27 PM
Aug 2020

See if you can find it at the PBS site. He explains how Hitler and others (Mussolini) were able to use propaganda, control of the press, fear and violence to woo in followers. It is chilling to see the similarities between the tactics used back then and the methods that tRump is using now, He has his enablers, too, just as Hitler did. We are damned fools if we say it can’t or won’t happen here. It is already happening. Wake up.

jmellman

(34 posts)
6. Kompromat -- follow the money
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:30 PM
Aug 2020

In addition to the rot that is the GOP, follow the money. I’ve been saying that the GOP and NRA pretty much ALL took illegal campaign money and help from the Russians and maybe others. Tell me I’m a conspiracy theorist but Occam’s Razor says ‘give me some other alternative that would affect nearly 100% alignment.’ Words. Deeds. Trips to Russia by people now running disinformation through the Senate.

Again. Why else?

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
8. The Republican Party..
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 04:50 PM
Aug 2020

and the wealth behind them. If they wanted him gone, he'd be gone. Everything done, is done with their guidance and blessing.

sop

(10,192 posts)
13. Democrats incorrectly assume the Republican party views Russia as the "enemy."
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:46 PM
Aug 2020

They don't. Russia hasn't been communist for a long time, they aren't politically progressive and they're certainly not socially liberal.  The country is controlled by Putin and a corrupt, ultra-conservative band of thuggish oligarchs. Russia financially supports ultra-rightwing, nazi, racist, christian fundamentalist, white nationalist and other anti-democratic groups and movements.

Like Putinism's corrupt mix of plutocracy and autocracy, Trumpism, aided by thieving corporatist Republicans, is destroying our constitutional republic and establishing an American autocracy run by American oligarchs, where all wealth flows to the top and the rights of minorities and others are trampled. Why would Republicans oppose that?

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
9. republicon voters are still supporting their Senators. When their poll support changes,
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:00 PM
Aug 2020

the repubicon Senate will change.

OnDoutside

(19,960 posts)
10. Norms. The American political system largely depended on them.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:05 PM
Aug 2020

Merge that with GOP unwillingness to stand by those norms, and here you are.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
12. Two things in my opinion. A senate that is complicit
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:42 PM
Aug 2020

and a Constitution that never expected a wanna be dictator to be elected. It's a perfect storm.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
16. It reminds me a little of the Ricky Gervais movie where the world doesn't know what a lie is.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:04 PM
Aug 2020

He tells a lie, and, no matter what it is, everyone just believes him. The idea of lies is alien to them so they can't even conceive of someone telling one.

With Trump, it's similar. People simply don't know how to deal with someone who lies so blatantly, so constantly, and with such brazenness. The media had a real hard time with it, especially at first. It was only about three or four years ago that you almost never read or heard a media report saying someone had lied, or deliberately spoken falsehoods, or said something without evidence. Then Trump comes along, and they all had to have emergency meetings on what to do with their style guides and policies. They ended up having to start using the word "lie" routinely in their reporting thanks to Trump.

The people hurt by his lies also don't know what to do. They say he's a liar over and over again, but it doesn't matter. He's President, and he's backed by fellow Republicans who willingly back his lies.

The people helped by his lies, Republicans, don't know how to deal with it either. They feel like they're getting away with something, so they sell their souls for a handful of magic beans and any chance they can find to avoid Trump's wrath on a day-by-day basis. He who turns and runs away, lives to run away another day.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
17. the Founding Fathers envisioned a rogue piece of shit like Trump
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:09 PM
Aug 2020

what they did NOT envision was an entire political party doing NOTHING about him

onethatcares

(16,169 posts)
18. watch netflix, "Fear City"
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:17 PM
Aug 2020

I am not trying to be a tin foil hatter but this documentary will open your eyes I hope.

Our country is being run by the "mob" and now they want our social security and medicare dollars.

They are never satisfied, never. All of ours belongs to them and as we complain about Billy Barr, and Lindsey Graham, they're robbing us blind. Hell, what are we gonna do? March in the streets? Paint signs? They've already seized the reigns of power and are on their way to taking the rest.. Gaud, I hope I'm wrong., , , I really do.

That's why the conald said he would be the auditor of where the PPA funds went. Right out the door Yeah, I know, it's tinfoil hat area, but think about who benefits the most?

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
23. I'm afraid to watch that right now.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:56 PM
Aug 2020

I'm feeling especially vulnerable emotionally at the moment and I don't want to go over the edge. I will watch it though, I will.

onethatcares

(16,169 posts)
25. take breaks, leave it alone for a day or two
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 07:17 PM
Aug 2020

it's scary as hell though.

I wish you well, I really do, on your feelings.

Peace

Castiel

(52 posts)
24. Republicans.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:57 PM
Aug 2020

They let him commit any crimes he wants because they want America to be like Russia as long as they're in charge.

raccoon

(31,111 posts)
27. The shithead Republicans in Congress wouldn't stop him
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 07:38 PM
Aug 2020

No matter what he did.

That’s how he’s gotten so far.

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