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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden needs to go to Wisconsin immediately!
I agree with this wholeheartedly:
Biden, then, should go immediately to Wisconsin, the crucial state that Hillary Clinton infamously ignored. He should meet the Blake family and give them his support and comfort. He should also meet Kenoshans like the small-business owners quoted in the Times piece, who doubt that Democrats care about the wreckage of their dreams. Then, on the burned-out streets, without a script, from the heart, Biden should speak to the city and the country. He should speak for justice and for safety, for reform and against riots, for the crying need to bring the country together. If he says these things half as well as Julia Jackson did, we might not have to live with four more years of Trump.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/how-biden-loses/615835/
Landslide for Biden if he does this! Nightmarish times if he does not!
Farmgirl1961
(1,493 posts)Hasn't he already met with the Blake family once? Even so, things are blowing up big time there...
BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)James48
(4,436 posts)Dont ever count that bastard out. Hes sitting there saying that Dems encourage looting and burning, and half the damn country believes him.
Trump still could pull out a win, and I would not be surprised that many Dems dont believe it.
Believe it. Hes dangerous!
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amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)People act like trump and the assholes around him are mad geniuses. They're criminal stooges and not bright
James48
(4,436 posts)Neither are half the American public.
The only way Biden can win is if everything goes right.
Trump has LOTS of support, and every single one of us is going to have to help if we are going to be successful at putting Biden in Office. Dont you dare think this is going to be easy! Its going to be very, very difficult, and take lots of work!
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)For over a year
And don't you dare tell me what to think
can still win with putins help. Also through voter intimidation and throwing out ballots.
calguy
(5,313 posts)This could be the election right here and now. Trump wants to push the narrative laid out during last week's convention. Democrats pushed the pandemic issue, trump is trying to take it away by creating riots in the streets. It'll all come down to how Biden handles things right now whether or not trump grabs the momentum. Once momentum is lost it's very hard to get it back.
dragonlady
(3,577 posts)Jacob Blake's dad says he spoke to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for a full hour and he found it comforting because it felt like he was talking to family.
Blake's father, who's also named Jacob, says he and Blake's mother's were nervous at first to talk with the Democrats' Presidential ticket ... but says Biden and Harris calmed them down. The elder Jacob said, "I don't think people understand the worry of a mother. That's her baby."
He revealed how the conversation went down Friday morning on CNN's "New Day" ... saying it felt "like I was speaking to my uncle and one of my sisters -- literally, literally." Jacob's father added, "It felt like they knew what was going on. And, they didn't act like they were in a hurry to go anywhere. They spent time with us."
https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/28/jacob-blake-dad-joe-biden-kamala-harris-uncle-sister/
Celerity
(43,408 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Presumably in person.
I'm so glad he talked to this victim's parents. Such horrible violence against their adult child!
Rebl2
(13,523 posts)day is to late. He needs to go NOW.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Just sharing what I'd read.
LymphocyteLover
(5,644 posts)just because it's in the news now?
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Celerity
(43,408 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)I'm not afraid to go into the line of fire for ya haha!
Celerity
(43,408 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Nt
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Kickers are occasionally the priority in football and occasionally here
moreland01
(739 posts)he should stop in Flint, Michigan.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Augiedog
(2,548 posts)sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)I guess you said it better.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213989530
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Rabrrrrrr
(58,349 posts)Totally.
It would not only show that he cares about Wisconsin and earn some political points...
it would also show that he actually understands what a president should be doing and how a president should act.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)from a Trump win is pretty silly. He needs to go to Wisconsin sure, and Michigan, and PA, and FL, and AZ.
But whether he goes this upcoming week or effectively the week after, is not going to be the difference between winning and losing.
And if it's THAT close. If it's SO close that Biden is a week away from losing? Then we are fucked anyways. The polls are all wrong.
I don't believe that.
No Joe can't sit around and never go to places, but if they have a solid plan, then waiting a week isn't going to be deadly.
BComplex
(8,053 posts)Obamacare (the Affordable Care Act), and keep the emphasis where most voters are invested the most, in the middle of a pandemic that trump ignored until it was way too late, and then he only exacerbated the problems.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)She spent more money in advertising there than Obama did in 2012. She had a larger ground operation to GOTV than Obama did in 2012. She didn't hold rallies there because she chose to hold rallies in states where polling showed a closer race.
We can debate whether she should have made sure to hold a rally or two in all battleground states. A study shortly after the election indicated that this was not a significant factor in the outcome of the election. But we can still discuss whether that was something that should have been done differently.
Either way, it isn't accurate to say that she ignored the state. BTW, I am the only one who remembers that originally the media claimed that she ignored Michigan too? Ultimately they dropped that, but at one point it was as much in the narrative as Wisconsin was. I guess that is how it works when your narrative isn't based on facts and details, but rather what you can get away with claiming.
betsuni
(25,537 posts)question everything
(47,486 posts)llashram
(6,265 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)Righhhhhhhhht noooooooow!11111 Now!1111 This minute!!!!!!111 or were Doooooooooomed!11111
llashram
(6,265 posts)to the churches, into the streets as suggested let people see his empathy, feel his genuine compassion so they can compare and contrast when the grifting criminal PINO arrives next week. PLEASE JOE!
And the police and militias need to be cordoned off with a large perimeter away from OUR CANDIDATE.
Farmgirl1961
(1,493 posts)Is there a way for any of us to convey our sentiments to the B/H team?
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)They will see the thread and act immediately.
crickets
(25,981 posts)Jon King
(1,910 posts)Its getting frustrating how bad Democrats are at national politics in regards to playing the electoral college. For goodness sakes Trump basically said he was going to defund Social Security 2 weeks ago by eliminating the payroll tax that funds it. Somehow, we are not able to get that message out. Biden and Harris should have held small events in PA, MI, WI where they constantly hammered the safety of Social Security. People have short attention spans, hammer it while it is fresh.
I said a month ago my white friends were flipping on the BLM protests. Sure enough new polls show that the independents have totally become against the protests and view them as violent. Unless its fake protestors who are really right wingers, all the bottle throwing and setting fires is going to get Trump re-elected. One poor business owner at a pizza shop in Kenosha literally asked the protestors if they were trying to get Trump re-elected. Honestly, that is exactly what these protests are going to do.
Now Biden sits and waits instead of acting on Kenosha. Should have been there today with his wife, hold a press conference, vow to rebuild, vow to work with citizens. Also meet with some local cops and become a bridge between the 2 groups.
Trump heading there Tuesday and they said he will focus on the damaged buildings. So Kenosha will be a 100% win for Trump with white independents.
This is looking like 2016 again. Win the popular vote by a large margin, lose PA, MI, WI independents. We have to stop thinking the swing voters care if Trump uses the White House as a campaign prop or if he calls people nasty names. They do not care. They care about health care, law and order, the economy. Biden trails Trump by 12 points in polls about who is better on the economy.
Its frustrating, but you can see this becoming 2016 all over again, even with a freaking pandemic, 10% unemployment, and defunding SS. Its ALL about the white swing voters in PA, MI, WI and we are losing them fast when we had them 2 months ago.
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radius777
(3,635 posts)Biden/Harris need to get off zoom and get into these swing states, especially WI and MN where the shootings happened. They need to voice support for the peaceful protests while strongly condemning violence. They need to stress that Trump and his divisive rhetoric is the source of much of the turmoil in the country, along with RW agitators - not just the left.
They could do socially distanced outdoor events, meet with leaders etc.
Agree with your comments on the economy, Biden needs to get it through to voters that the stock market and economy are not the same thing. He needs to speak more directly to the white and latino working class, which in addition to black voters and female voters are crucial to any Dem win.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)MuchBetterThanThis
(32 posts)We cant react to everything that Trump does. Biden is doing well by simply picking his spots and in this case he has sided with the Blake family.
Stop this panic shit when Trump runs around recklessly fishing for photo ops/steal the narrative shit.
Look at the polls over time. This aint 2016😳
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Will he have a private plane to travel on, like Trump? How will he avoid getting exposed?
iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)regarding gatherings, social distancing, and masks.
Alternatively, he could set up a virtual town hall to speak with people or a drive in event like he had on the last day of the DNC convention. We are in the middle of a pandemic, campaigning can't be done like Covid doesn't exist.
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ansible
(1,718 posts)Jesus, are you all living in a bubble?! This is hurting his chances to win, Trump is taking control of the narrative and the more Biden hides the worse it gets!
Midwestern Democrat
(806 posts)running a "front porch campaign" from Wilmington - a campaign strategy that before this year I assumed was a relic of the 19th century. I mean, it's not like past nominees of both parties for the last 60+ years campaigned hard for months just for the hell of it. In 2004, I went to a rally for John Kerry in Iowa on a hot, humid July Saturday morning - I doubt John Kerry found standing under a scorching sun in Iowa more pleasant than simply sitting in his air conditioned home in Boston - he, like past nominees, went through these ordeals because they thought it was absolutely necessary to do so.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)You either trust our candidate or you don't.
Psst..He's getting a landslide regardless
gab13by13
(21,359 posts)Trump is going to Wisconsin to meet with the cops, Biden can go later and meet with the people.
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ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Because they are the ones hurting. The cops did not have to shoot Jacob Blake in the back at close range 7 times.
greyl
(22,990 posts)linda52
(26 posts)Nightmarish times if he does not!!!!!!!!!!!
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)GusFring
(756 posts)betsuni
(25,537 posts)Hillary didn't "ignore" anything (Democrats are wealthy elites talking point) and there's a pandemic.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Just like Trump is doing.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)He needs to go there and sooth his supporters NOW! Wisconsin is a explosive just waiting to be lit and trump being in K-town on Tuesday may be the accelerant to fire my state up uncontrollably!
Madison is protesting as well....
Has he condemned the little punk ass IL vigilante for his carnage? I havent seen anything from him, but will welcome reading anything he has said about that incident.
Come to WI now, Joe....after Labor Day might be too late