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donald trump will have the cdc give america an october surprise (an unproven, not fully tested vaccine.)
"CDC documents say states should prepare to distribute Covid-19 vaccines as soon as late October" -cnn
(pic) great! just in time for the election!
sprinkleeninow
(20,252 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)whatever failures or bad outcomes of the vaccine won't have shown up by November 3, so people will be oblivious.
I am hoping that there are enough of us who remember the swine flu vaccine debacle in 1976 to make a difference. Not to mention all of those who will be rightfully cautious about a sudden miracle vaccine.
onetexan
(13,043 posts)& lets see if he wants to take the quackery he's peddling.
Thekaspervote
(32,778 posts)Decimated the agencies that would be responsible for managing, distribution and giving of the vaccine it wouldnt be possible!
Hey dotard..hows that workin out for ya?? Give me the gun, Ill shoot my other foot now
airmid
(500 posts)Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Watch the turn today
"every one get president trumps vaccine"
Already heard it blurbed as "presidents vaccine" twice.
airmid
(500 posts)IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... a vaccine will be available, but Dr Fauci says, "by the end of the calendar year there may be a vaccine".
captain queeg
(10,208 posts)Though Im not so sure thats going to work. As many have stated lots of his fan club are anti vaxers and most reasonable people will be too suspicious to try it till its been in use for months. I certainly would take the initial batch.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Trump WILL rush a COVID vaccine to market, a significant portion of HIS voting base are also anti-vaxer's and don't look at COVID in the same light as the rest of america. The rest of america will have ZERO trust in a trump era vaccinne.
So who the heck is going to take it? That will be a huge slap in the face for trump and GOP days before the election. Millions of doses going to waste.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)are the ones who have to submit the proper paperwork to get early approval. The CDC/FDA cannot just approve a vaccine on their own. You can bet liability issues will be front and center before ANY private sector company asks for early approval.
But there are a lot of vaccines in the works with a few more moving into phase 3 trials right now. I think it's entirely possible there will be at least one vaccine approved by the end of the year, but it won't be by election day.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)No company is going to fudge data to get a bogus vaccine to market.
whopis01
(3,514 posts)Merck & Co. falsified vaccine efficacy results in order to pass the FDA's threshold for approval.
https://www.biospace.com/article/merck-and-co-s-fake-mmr-trial-data-buried-even-as-measles-outbreak-shows-vaccine-surge-/
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Advocate-Provided-Information-Merck-Fraud-Charges-Federal-Court.pdf
Granted, it is not exactly a "bogus" vaccine. It does work. However, it does not work to the extent (knowingly falsely) claimed by the company.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)not been decided as of April 2019.
whopis01
(3,514 posts)Pharmaceutical companies have lied and falsified data on numerous occasions.
I am sure there are many more occasions than have ever made it through the courts.
I just simple do not agree with your assessment that "No company is going to fudge data to get a bogus vaccine to market". I believe there are companies that have to potential to do exactly that.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)to be exposed to the pathogen. This has so many eyes on it it would be a huge risk. Any other time, I think sadly, you are correct.
whopis01
(3,514 posts)I don't think it is going to happen right now. Especially with so many eyes on it, like you said. But I am jaded anway.
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Walleye
(31,028 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Thanks for the warning, assholes. Most of us see right through this bullshit. No fucking way am I getting it. I will not take any vaccine coming from this so-called administration, and I know that I am FAR from alone here.