BREAKING: CBS Battleground States New Polling Updated on Sept 6

[macwriter]

check out all fifty states at https://www.cbsnews.com/2020-us-election-battleground-tracker/?ftag=CNM-00-10abc1f

what is very positive as well as the fact that Biden leads in all except Ohio where he is tied, is that he is 50 -- to 54 percent in all but Ohio where he is 49. There's still a lot of days left, but it is a sign that "law and order" is not the great game-changing message Trump thinks it is.

WI -- BIDEN 50 TRUMP 44
PA -- BIDEN 52 TRUMP 47
MN -- BIDEN 54 TRUMP 43
MI -- BIDEN 53 TRUMP 45
NH -- BIDEN 54 TRUMP 44
NV -- BIDEN 53 TRUMP 45
CO -- BIDEN 54 TRUMP 43
FL -- BIDEN 52 TRUMP 47
NC -- BIDEN 51 TRUMP 47
GA -- BIDEN 51 TRUMP 47
IO -- BIDEN 50 TRUMP 47
AZ -- BIDEN 50 TRUMP 48
OH -- BIDEN 49 TRUMP 49

[SheltieLover]

1. K&R!

[triron]

2. WTF is it with Ohio??

Trump is tied there! Must be the idiot capital of the midwest.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. They tilt red, especially in the southern parts of the state. n/t

[MyOwnPeace]

6. Yep!

It's all part of "Pennsyltucky" (Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky) - still waiting for BunkerBoy to bring back COAL!!!!! (Remember? Trump LOVES coal!).

[CaliforniaPeggy]

8. Exactly right! Pennsyltucky! How could I forget that moniker???

[H2O Man]

13. !!!!

[Klaralven]

56. The Bible Belt really begins at I-70

When working there, I was surprised by how evangelical Columbus was. And it seems that south of I-70 there was a fairly heavy German immigrant settlement - both Catholic and conservative Missouri Synod Lutheran types.

[Eyeball_Kid]

76. Yeah. South of Cleveland. n/t

[jimlup]

85. Bob Evans down on the farm....

Not calling out Bob Evans specifically but Ohio is fucked up.

[Boomerproud]

4. I'm ashamed. I work in manufacturing and the rural

whites will never vote against It.

[madaboutharry]

7. Everywhere from Cincinnati and south of Cincinnati is really Northern Kentucky.

[madinmaryland]

44. Uhm. Everything south of Cincinnati IS Kentucky.

[madaboutharry]

55. My error, I meant Columbus.

Sorry.

[peacebuzzard]

10. same as wtf with TN. MS, SC, especially TN.

I live in a somewhat rural county in TN. Memphis, Nashville and other metro areas are shifting blue. But it does not carry the state.
It can be very depressing when I go out into the community for errands.
even Al Gore lost his own state of TN in his run for president .
The only thing that will change this place will be the next generation, and more education.

[Momgonepostal]

70. My daughter lives in Nashville so I understand

It’s encouraging to see the activism of the city, but I see how it turns redder and redder the farther out you get. I love Tennessee, how green and pretty it is. As much as I love looking at online real estate and “window shopping” for a house, I suspect I would be frustrated living anywhere I could afford.

I’m in a red part of California so I’m in a similar boat here.

[peacebuzzard]

79. I have learned to ignore and not engage.

to reduce depression/frustration.
I am happy with the house I could afford.(almost 2 acres of land)

[Buckeye_Democrat]

16. It borders KY and WV and, trust me, several people...

... immigrated to Ohio from those states and it's not like they're the best-educated ones either.

[OMGWTF]

48. The stupidest person I ever worked with in Ohio was from Possum Trot, Kentucky.

[Celerity]

92. Looked it up, Possum Trot is in the westernmost part of KY, which is called

Jackson's Purchase (Andrew Jackson bought it from the Chickasaw in 1818, even though it was technically already part of Kentucky since 1792.)

It is the most 'Southern' in attitude of all the parts of KY.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Purchase

[CaptainTruth]

63. When I liked in the Akron area we called those folks "one tankers."

Because it seemed like they drove into Ohio as far as one tank of gas would take them, & settled there.

[raging moderate]

65. I have a friend who was born in Ohio, from an old Ohio family.

She married a Northern Illinois man, and moved away. Years later, when she went back home to visit, the population had changed dramatically, and so had the prevailing accent. At a restaurant, the waitress, who had an upper Mid-South accent, asked my friend where she was from. My friend told her, "Oh, I'm from right around here. I was born five miles from here." The young waitress found that hard to believe.

[Statistical]

17. Ohio Voter on President Trump: "I Think He Almost Walks On Water"

Ohio Voter on President Trump: "I Think He Almost Walks On Water"
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/09/06/ohio_voter_on_trump_i_think_he_almost_walks_on_water.html

[BainsBane]

58. Raddatz doesn't follow up

on the guy's statement. Wouldn't the natural question be why the guy thinks he walks on water?

[Mariana]

73. Preacher's been telling the congregation that every Sunday for years, most likely.

There's God the Father, then there's Jesus, and then just a little bit below Jesus, not much below him but just a little bit, there's Trump. God made Trump president to implement God's will and to defeat the forces of Satan, i.e. Democrats.

[TeamPooka]

69. They almost deserve what they get with Trump

[33taw]

18. That belongs to Indiana - home of Pence.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

20. Forgot about them!

Yet another "red border" for Ohio. Ugh.

[Chili]

19. I'm ashamed too

Cleveland & Columbus (Ohio State) are deep blue, & Cincinnati, Toledo, Akron, Youngstown & Athens (Ohio U) are also mostly blue, but the rest of the state is rural and deep red. Not sure how that can ever be changed, very difficult, except that many voters in those red counties are older - that's the only hope the state will ever move towards consistent blue - if or when the young are more of the populace.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

21. Dayton is purple.

Clinton did better in Dayton than the state overall, but still lost by 1% in the county.

I don't know about Toledo. I thought that area used to be pretty Republican. Edit: Nope, Lucas County (Toledo) was solid-blue in 2016! https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/ohio/

[Chili]

39. I like that page, thanks for the link!

Our state looks so... red! But inside all of those red counties are way fewer voters. Thank goodness the cities are so large - it's what makes the state winnable. Obama won us twice. Hopefully Joe / Kamala can do it again! We can if we can get out the vote - which is possible. I received my absentee ballot application automatically last week - hadn't requested it online yet. Kinda shocked me - DeWine is republican. But I suspect he is a silent no-Trumper.

So *fingers tightly crossed*

[Buckeye_Democrat]

45. I think we can do it!

Ohio seems to be getting more red and stupid over the years, but I'd like to think it's not dumb enough to vote for another four years of Trump!

[Awsi Dooger]

26. None of the foundational numbers look good in Ohio

39% conservatives in 2016 compared to 35% in 2008 and 2012. The tipping point, as I've mentioned, is 37%. A 4 point shift from 30 to 34 can easily be overcome but 35 to 39 is where the math no longer cooperates. It means the Republican only needs 37-40% moderates.

Also, Ohio has a huge number of working class voters, exactly the type who detoured to Trump. The typical 2016 swing state had 5-8% more college graduates than no-college but 2016 Ohio was the reverse, with 3% more no-college than college graduates. Compare to Colorado, for example, where there were 25% more college graduates than no-college. The split of the educational category has really crystalized some of these states toward where they are going and whether or not they are resuscitable.

I believe this is the last cycle that Ohio is viable. IMO, we should not be prioritizing it this time. Cleveland has simply lost too much population from its heyday and Cincinnati is slipping somewhat also. Columbus is growing but that is not enough to overcome all the bad numbers elsewhere.

I'd love to see Ohio go blue this time to make Jack Nicklaus fume

[Buckeye_Democrat]

27. I agree.

I live in Ohio, and I still think Biden can win here, but I would spend more advertising bucks elsewhere.

Edit: If not for my elderly parents (in their 40's when I was born), I would have left Ohio years ago after college. All of my better job offers (math degree) were elsewhere.

[Chili]

43. and I think that's why we've become so red-looking

The young people outside the cities leave the state for better jobs. When we say rural out there, we mean Mayberry. No jobs. Just Mom & Pop small businesses designed to service just that area - nothing wrong with that, but hard for growth, I would think. And if the cities are having problems, the young from there leave too - leaving a state of older whites who would rarely vote Democratic (not referring to your sweet parents! )

[Buckeye_Democrat]

47. My parents were devoted Democrats.

I went through a rebellious phase in high school with pro-Libertarian crap, but soon realized it wasn't how the world worked and my parents were correct all along!

[Chili]

51. oh very cool!

They are out there! Somebody posted a pic of a Biden sign on an Ohio barn not too long ago! We can do it, I know we can!

[LisaL]

67. Yes, OH is getting redder.

Like you said, demographics are getting worse for democrats. However, never say never. OH is allowed no excuse absentee voting, and it also has early voting.

[IronLionZion]

33. Trump is going to bring them so many good jobs

they just have to be patient

[dsc]

42. the problem with Ohio is part of why NC and others states look so good

Ohio is getting older as the younger people leave Ohio. Ohio has been bleeding people for years and those people have gone to places such as NC. So NC has been becoming younger and less southern while Ohio has become older and whiter.

[Alliepoo]

53. I agree with you about the youngs

Leaving this crappy state for better opportunities and better weather. If I was young again I’d get out of here in a heartbeat and never look back.

[llmart]

64. I left there in my 30's and never looked back. That was in the 1980's.

You couldn't pay me to go back to Ohio. I still have family there but I rarely even go back for visits. I did go back for a visit with a couple of high school friends in 2016 and I saw all the Trump signs everywhere and saw what my friends' lives were like and I realized that it was no longer a place I cared about.

I truly believe that my life has been so much better because I made the move out of there.

[dsc]

66. I came down in 2004

when I couldn't find a teaching job in Ohio to save my life.

[wishstar]

50. Tie is improvement over last poll I saw where Trump was 5% ahead in Ohio, while behind elsewhere

[JI7]

60. liberal leaning people leaving the state

[DownriverDem]

61. Lean Red

They've voted repub for decades.

[ok_cpu]

68. We're trying as hard as we can.

As pointed out by others, Ohio is basically Cleveland, Columbus, and Kentucky.

[mn9driver]

71. Televangelism was practically invented in Akron.

My dad worked as a cameraman for Rex Humbard back in the 1950’s before moving up to Cleveland to do legitimate TV. Good old time religion is a huge thing in Ohio.

An interesting article about old Rex and the family business:

https://m.clevescene.com/cleveland/jesus-for-sale/Content?oid=1503067

[jimlup]

86. I have a friend who should be on our side who has fallen for the fascists

because of circumstances in his life. He lives in Northern Ohio and is a Vegan for tRump. He isn't my friend anymore but I am sad.

[Polybius]

88. Virginia's conservatives all moved there

Which is why Freepers say "WTF is going on with Virginia?"

[Iliyah]

5. K & R . . .

But always keep the eye on the prize . . .

republicans will try and steal it by cheating with foreign countries and messing with ballot numbers or don't count them at all especially from blue areas.

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. This poll currently projects 279 EV's for Biden, with an additional 60+ toss ups nt

[Drunken Irishman]

11. Take these polls with a grain of salt.

The MOE for some of these states is ridiculously high.

One example is Michigan, which is six-points.

While still technically acceptable, it likely means a good chunk of these results are sketchy due to the fact they're all within the MOE.

[James48]

30. I live in Michigan

And still am seeing 5 to 1 signs for Trump, not Biden.

[Drunken Irishman]

31. Signs are irrelevant.

It's just as silly, if not way more so, to assume signs are a better indicator than polls with larger MOE.

[IronLionZion]

35. Trumpsters are more likely to put up signs

and more likely to tear down Biden signs.

Dems are more concentrated in cities while GOP is spread out across rural areas

[getagrip_already]

38. I live in mass, but even here, if we put up a sign it is stolen in days.....

They don't mean squat when they are being censored.

[uponit7771]

40. +1, high moe is what bit Dems in 16

[Rice4VP]

12. If this holds, Biden would get 356

[marybourg]

14. What happened in AZ?

[Awsi Dooger]

22. I think polling models will be all over the map in Arizona

That is standard when a state is changing so rapidly. It is very difficult to gauge exactly where the lever will stop in November 2020, in terms of balancing the old realities with ongoing shift. It's almost like that mountain climber game on Price is Right.

IMO, the very large leads in Arizona are not accurate, whether it's the senate race or presidential race. Arizona has no history of that type of thing and 40-41% conservatives in the electorate suggests the ideological wall is much closer to 50 than the polling suggests, at least the ones with Kelly leading by 17 and Biden by 9. I do not trust those numbers as accurate or logical.

[Thekaspervote]

28. A factor that plays heavily in AZ is What McSally said about John McCain b4 he passed

To say that John McCain is Arizona’s favorite son is an understatement. Be red, blue or Indy, Arizonans don’t tolerate anyone dissing the guy. Biden is well known in AZ as a friend of the McCains and they are supporting Biden. McCain’s clout runs deep there

To refresh, mcsally knowing she was to be appointed to finish him term said “I wish he would hurry up and die!” Oh wrong!!!

Kelly being from Tucson, it’s pretty darn blue, maricopa county not so much. I do expect Kelly to easily win his seat, and that will pull Biden along..hopefully to a victory. Not exactly sure yet myself

[Chili]

62. "I wish he would hurry up and die!"

Oh how callous and stupid. She's done, stick a fork in 'er.

During the campaign, I didn't like McCain, but before and after, I had no problem with him. He was a good man - those two times he defended Obama to his nutcase supporters was very rare and classy. Can't ever forget that. And look who worked for him - Nicolle Wallace is damn near a Dem now, and Schmidt eviscerates trump every chance he gets.

Also, I haven't forgotten how supportive Kelly was when Gabrielle Giffords was shot. His devotion was so deep, it touched anyone who saw him interviewed. He will be great in the Senate.

[Sugarcoated]

72. I remember hearing that McSally said that

but don't recall where or to who.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

15. Tied in Ohio!

Come on, Ohio! Don't SUCK again!

Thank goodness the numbers are better elsewhere!

[Chili]

52. yeah baby!

We've been going up and down all summer, down 2, up 2 and tied for weeks - it's going to be excruciatingly close... !

[Thekaspervote]

23. All but OH Biden is polling above 50%...once a candidate starts polling 50%+ they are hard to catch

Hillary never did poll above 50% in the swing states

[Walleye]

24. I like seeing Joe over 50%

[honest.abe]

25. The two states that are the most telling are Florida and Pennsylvania.

If Joe wins those two its over.

[NurseJackie]

29. IA

[Quixote1818]

89. Thank you. lol nt

[Midnight Writer]

32. Hey, why is Biden's name always first? Liberal media bias? Rush wants to know!

[OverBurn]

34. Seems very depressing to me. How can that many people be for that evil, insane, traitor.

[Sugarcoated]

74. There there

[Dopers_Greed]

36. I was starting to get worried about MN

It was a tied race there in some polls for a bit.

Anything 5 points or less gap is still too close for comfort.

[Desert grandma]

37. Albuquerque paper this morning showed the latest poll in NM

Biden 54
Trump 39

His "law and order" message does not seem to be working here either. And to think, GOP thought NM could be a swing state. NOT.

[BamaRefugee]

41. Feeling good about a September poll is like heading to the betting window to pick up your money when

your horse is in the lead but they've only rounded the first turn.
We gotta keep fighting til November freaking 4th, 20th, 30th, December, whatever it takes!

[steve2470]

80. so true, no complacency !!! nt

[Adsos Letter]

46. GOTV!

[kentuck]

54. Hillary never reached 50% in any of the polls, before the election, as I recall...

That is a good sign, in my opinion.

[peggysue2]

57. Love to see Biden cracking 50 in these polls but for Ohio

That's a very good sign. The higher the better. So far, Trump has not been able to pivot away from the referendum on him and the last 4 years. As long as that holds, he's toast.

[jayschool2013]

59. Nebraska 2 is also a battleground

Latest polling was in July, but it was Biden 51, Trump 44.

That's one electoral vote from Nebraska if it holds. Obama also got that vote in 2008.

[Hulk]

75. Factor in "cheating" and "voter suppression"....and

...this is anyone's game. Then toss in the lies and "October surprise" that is bound to fall...at least once....and the devil still is in the race...neck and neck.

[Tribetime]

77. If this story on dissing our troops has legs

Trump could finally crash in the polls when people who voted for hom know he's pranked them.

[vercetti2021]

78. So is TX

Biden was up by 3.

[steve2470]

81. Rick Wilson of The Lincoln Project says we must be ahead 15 points in Florida

Granted, he might have been exaggerating for effect or for his podcast, but he seemed very serious that the Florida Republicans would do all they could to steal it here in Florida.

[mucifer]

84. Can't see that happening unless the deplorables start believing they could lose their

social security and medicare.

I think they would rather lose their social security than elect a baby eating pedophile like Biden. These "people" are bat s crazy.

[GulfCoast66]

91. Obama won here both times.

Why is it hard to believe Biden will?

We are diverse and less rural than many of the midwestern states.

If we get the vote out we win Florida.

[Squidly]

82. I want to see next weeks polls

after the "losers and suckers" news sinks in.

[jimlup]

83. Good news but sit tight and now fight like hell!

Remember that something went wrong in 2016. We can not forget that as we approach this critical point in our nations history.

[progressoid]

87. IO? How many voters do we have on IO?

[budkin]

90. How the hell did Obama win Ohio TWICE?

It seems like TrumpWorld now.

[colsohlibgal]

93. So Disheartening

Ohio, like many States, has a pretty strong Urban/Rural divide. The big 3 C’s, Cleveland, Columbus, Akron, now Cincinnati etc. If we big Metro Areas show up we can win Ohio.

If we do it likely seals Chitolini’s doom.

If only we can win all three branches we can start taking this Country in a sane manner and heal some of the gaping rifts among us......it won’t be easy.