As for voting machines..

[I_UndergroundPanther]

Should've never been allowed to be proprietary information of a private for profit corporation.

But that's what has happened,repug corporate owners made hackable propietory machines.

The corporation screams we own them if anyone demands to check how vulnerable they are to hacks or vote manipulation.

Just like corporations owning the press . The press is not free if it is owned.

[Blue Owl]

1. K&R

[brooklynite]

2. Are you under the impression that the press hasn't been owned since the nation was founded?

[Wounded Bear]

3. Another reason they hate vote by mail...

paper trail so if you need to audit, you can.

[Hoyt]

4. Are you suggesting it would be better to have say the trump admin oversee

development/maintenance of voting systems?

However voting systems are developed and run, they are subject to hacking and manipulation. That’s why we have poll watchers. Heck, ballot box stuffing was common in 50s and 60s.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

5. With the lever machines

We had a paper trail.

There is no paper trail with electronic machines.

Some things should not be made for profit.

Corporations can't own everything.

We have public television maybe having some news organizations not for profit might be good.

Profit is greed.

[Hoyt]

6. So, who is going to own it, governments run by GOPers who hire GOPers to

program, etc.? Is every state and locality going to hire systems people to develop, run and maintain things?

Point is, there is no perfect solution.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

7. Criminal republicans

Can't be trusted,period.

The old machines who owned them?

Capitalism needs to die.