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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Sep 2020

So far, I believe Joe Biden is running a near perfect campaign

It's so easy for anyone to like Joe, but I never thought I'd be quite as impressed by him as I have been since his nomination. Every time I hear him speak, I am blown away by what he says and how he approaches his campaign against Trump. And adding Kamala to the equation makes it all that much better.

Joe is staying on the offensive, pummeling away at Trump relentlessly, sounding very smart and very tough at the same time. He isn't taking any shit from Trump either. Screw the high road!! Biden is giving Trump exactly what Trump does not wish to receive, a fucking shit-kicking. And while he's tearing Trump a new one, he is still getting his message out. He just sounds so consistently good.

Listening and watching the way Biden has been approaching this election, my confidence level has risen from about 75% to 99.9%. Considering the circumstances, I believe he is running as good a campaign so far as any presidential candidate in recent years, and that is saying something. I believe we will win.

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So far, I believe Joe Biden is running a near perfect campaign (Original Post) mtnsnake Sep 2020 OP
I agree completely. K&R. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #1
Agree!! MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #2
Yesterday in Michigan DownriverDem Sep 2020 #22
"Yesterday in Michigan" is music to my ears MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #26
it's the old saying... agingdem Sep 2020 #3
My respect and appreciation for Joe Biden grows every day. NNadir Sep 2020 #4
Spot on mtnsnake Sep 2020 #18
Biden was my preferred candidate. DownriverDem Sep 2020 #23
Very true. I fully concede you were right and I was wrong. NNadir Sep 2020 #27
Yes he is, one of the best Presidential campaigns I've ever seen. Green Line Sep 2020 #5
Yup!! He's been very measured and forward thinking. Sees the incomings...and ducks Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #6
One of the most brilliant "ducks" was riding the bicycle in front of the FOX propagandist. NNadir Sep 2020 #7
The bottleneck is in getting the word out to Trumpers via whatever media reach them. Towlie Sep 2020 #8
Yes he is! ananda Sep 2020 #9
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #10
I think he needs to be careful not to get in the mud with Trump. kentuck Sep 2020 #11
He IS being very careful about it mtnsnake Sep 2020 #13
Fair enough. kentuck Sep 2020 #30
As the Lincoln Project said, Tanuki Sep 2020 #34
I agree mcar Sep 2020 #12
And running a good campaign is a good indication frazzled Sep 2020 #14
Well said. crickets Sep 2020 #16
Biden is running a very good campaign gratuitous Sep 2020 #15
beating him like a drum greenman3610 Sep 2020 #17
Biden has managed to keep the election focused as a referendum on Trump peggysue2 Sep 2020 #19
There's been no stress test yet bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #20
Agree--- he's so much better than I knew before LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #21
I agree, he's steady, he's gaining momentum and he has lots of great Dems supporting his campaign nt yaesu Sep 2020 #24
I also think he's getting better every day LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #25
I agree. It's amusing (and annoying) to read the gripes from those who think he should "do more". NurseJackie Sep 2020 #28
I will not rest in Complacency. djacq Sep 2020 #29
Joe manages to deliver his criticisms while remaining... 3catwoman3 Sep 2020 #31
But all it takes is just one "Dean scream" to lose the election. JohnnyRingo Sep 2020 #32
sigh... the Dean Scream didn't do in Howard Dean NewJeffCT Sep 2020 #33
Agreed Hav Sep 2020 #35
K&R Blue Owl Sep 2020 #36

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)
22. Yesterday in Michigan
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:51 PM
Sep 2020

Biden sounded clear and strong. No way is he weak which is trump all the way. I'm waiting for trump to try and lurk around Biden during the debates like he did with Hillary. Biden will attack him and make him look like the dangerous fool he is.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
3. it's the old saying...
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 11:01 AM
Sep 2020

you don't murder someone when they're committing suicide...and that's what Trump is doing and so far the venal sociopath has take over 190,000 innocent souls with him...

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
4. My respect and appreciation for Joe Biden grows every day.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 11:06 AM
Sep 2020

I was a little worried at the outset; he was never my preferred candidate, but I freely admit that I was wrong.

He is the best of all the candidates.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
18. Spot on
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:27 PM
Sep 2020

I think what you are saying reflects how a lot of Democrats are feeling right now. All good stuff!

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)
23. Biden was my preferred candidate.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:54 PM
Sep 2020

We needed someone who appeals to a diverse group of voters. Some folks don't get that and think who they like is all that maters. I've been there and just because you like a candidate doesn't mean they can win.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
27. Very true. I fully concede you were right and I was wrong.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:03 PM
Sep 2020

I'm not very impressed with my generation, over all, although I did briefly support Ms Warren, a member of my generation, although she had some ideas with which I profoundly disagreed. I then supported Mr. Yang, because I personally agreed with him on many things.

But it's not like I was anti-Biden. Far from it.

History teaches that great Presidents, the greatest Presidents, rise from the challenges at the time they assume office: Lincoln, FDR, Washington, Truman; I include Obama in this list.

Only TR is considered a Presidential great coming into office without facing a major crisis or challenge.

I was just worried in the primary season that Biden didn't have that ability to rise to greatness that is required after this, one of the greatest disasters in US history, the Trump Presidency.

He has demonstrated clearly and unambiguously that he does possess that quality. I believe he can save America from itself.

Again, you were right to support Biden from the get go, and I was wrong not to see him as clearly as I see him now.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
7. One of the most brilliant "ducks" was riding the bicycle in front of the FOX propagandist.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 11:13 AM
Sep 2020

I love how he's turning that "frailty" attack on the moron murderer in chief.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
8. The bottleneck is in getting the word out to Trumpers via whatever media reach them.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 11:26 AM
Sep 2020

Yes, hearing and watching the way Joe Biden has been approaching this election give us greater confidence in Joe Biden, but he already has our vote. The more important issue is what the Trump supporters are hearing and watching.

When Joe Biden speaks on TV I often flip over to Fox News to see if their viewers are hearing and watching what I'm hearing and watching, and when they are, that's what gives me confidence.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
11. I think he needs to be careful not to get in the mud with Trump.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 11:30 AM
Sep 2020

He needs to let Kamala and others do the attacks and he needs to remain presidential.

Just my opinion.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
13. He IS being very careful about it
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 11:42 AM
Sep 2020

at least so far. He is pounding away at him AND sounding very presidential at the same time.

I almost always agree with you, kentuck, but I have to disagree that he should let Kamala and others do the attacks. I think Biden should continue on the same exact path he has been, staying on the offensive and doing it in the mature manner he has been doing it so far. Biden's words are getting more and more people excited every day.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
30. Fair enough.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:24 PM
Sep 2020

I think he doesn't want to give them unnecessary propagands material. They are waiting for one misstep or misstatement.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
14. And running a good campaign is a good indication
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:03 PM
Sep 2020

that a candidate will run a good administration.

It's more than just his speeches or interviews (and I'll admit that I had low expectations for him on those counts in the beginning, but throughout the primaries and debates grew to believe he had far more going for him than we had been led to believe). It's about the people he's surrounded himself with, the choices the campaign has made, the discipline, and the focus.

Biden has proven himself sharp on a range of complex topics, and his campaign has proven itself disciplined and focused. I can only think that a Biden administration will be sharp, focused, and effective.

I've always thought that the two first things one needed to consider when assessing candidates were: (1) character; and (2) how they ran their campaign operation. Biden scores high on both counts. It's not just about a candidate you "like" or "get excited" about or has some great ideas. It's about administrative ability and a whole organization. This is a team that will get things done, and do it effectively.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
16. Well said.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:11 PM
Sep 2020

Biden is building a team rather than making the nonsensical claim that only he can fix things. It's the sign of a good leader that he not only keeps himself current on the issues but surrounds himself with others who have the more precise expertise to tackle various challenges. We are going to be in good hands.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. Biden is running a very good campaign
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:07 PM
Sep 2020

And the easiest way to tell he's running a very good campaign is the inability of Trump and his little minions to find anything to carp about except the most picayune details. The Biden campaign is mugging Trump on his record, his character, and the issues, and the Trump campaign is trying to defend the indefensible. You watch Trump's minions try to make the case for Trump, and they can't go on for more than a sentence or two, even in the friendliest venues.

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
19. Biden has managed to keep the election focused as a referendum on Trump
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:30 PM
Sep 2020

The current slew of revelations has helped in that effort giving the Biden team almost daily material to underscore Trump's failures and incompetence in leadership. At the same time, Biden hasn't taken the bait to lower himself to Trump's level with nasty tweets and/or name-calling. Joe Biden looks and sounds presidential, can speak to what needs to be done in terms of the Covid disaster, racial concerns, the economy, our position in the world, etc., etc., etc.

Trump? It's the same old schtick: Only I can fix it. Without, of course, any details or record of achievement.

The Trumpers are hoping the debates turn The Don's campaign around, that Joe Biden will come off looking like a dithering fool.

LOL! Be careful what you wish for, Trumpers. Because Joe Biden is coming for you.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
20. There's been no stress test yet
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:36 PM
Sep 2020

There will be. Could be debates, fear of leftward drift, Wall Street doubts, using the Senate as a check on Democratic power. We don't know yet, it will come because MSM must create energy and eyeballs to justify themselves and their costs, the public must be engaged.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
24. I agree, he's steady, he's gaining momentum and he has lots of great Dems supporting his campaign nt
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:57 PM
Sep 2020

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. I agree. It's amusing (and annoying) to read the gripes from those who think he should "do more".
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:04 PM
Sep 2020
I believe Joe Biden is running a near perfect campaign
I agree.

It's amusing (and annoying) to read the gripes from those who think he should "do more". I see it all over the internet. In context, those types of "nothing-is-ever-good-enough" comments come from online individuals who are perpetually dissatisfied, and who will always be carrying a grudge for various reasons.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
31. Joe manages to deliver his criticisms while remaining...
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:24 PM
Sep 2020

...dignified and serious - no foaming at the mouth, no sneering or mocking, no playground insults.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
32. But all it takes is just one "Dean scream" to lose the election.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:24 PM
Sep 2020

Or one photo slip up like riding in a tank to blow his chance in November, and heaven forbid we find out he sent an email to Obama on a private server. Certainly he better avoid wearing a gray suit.

Seems like a bit of a double standard, doesn't it?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
33. sigh... the Dean Scream didn't do in Howard Dean
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:29 PM
Sep 2020

He was leading in the Iowa caucus polls for a few months in late 2003 and then faded in the weeks before the 2004 caucus and finished a disappointing third, which essentially torpedoed his campaign. The Dean Scream - which I thought was like a coach trying to rally his players after losing a big game - was after the loss. He was never going to recover from the loss in Iowa, anyhow.

That said, I'm sure CNN and the rest of the mythical "liberal" media will pounce on Biden for each little gaffe

Hav

(5,969 posts)
35. Agreed
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:54 PM
Sep 2020

Someone mentioned that he has to be careful not to go too low near Trump's level but I actually believe that Biden really pummeling Trump is one of the aspects I like best about him. Dems often seemed too soft in their attacks because of an unwillingness to politicize sensitive topics. But Biden goes at Trump with full force, not holding back anything which includes using Trump's disastrous Corona response and I love it.

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