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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:55 PM Sep 2012

How the Pledge of Allegiance use to be...



God was not in the Pledge of Allegiance until around the 1940's. And indicating or making an assumption that those who are Atheists left God out of the Pledge is a rather sneaky way of making the assumption.
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How the Pledge of Allegiance use to be... (Original Post) Playinghardball Sep 2012 OP
I was in first grade in Catholic school SheilaT Sep 2012 #1
The USA adopted this pledge in 1942. yellerpup Sep 2012 #2
here's an intesting vid. yesphan Sep 2012 #3
The flag was saluted like this too... liberal N proud Sep 2012 #4
It's propaganda with or without the word "God." reformist2 Sep 2012 #5
It was added in 1954. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #6
Nice. I too keep silent during the 2 word addition, marybourg Sep 2012 #7
I remember it well nichomachus Sep 2012 #8
I would love to know genxlib Sep 2012 #9
I just omit the two words. I'm an atheist. MineralMan Sep 2012 #10
"under God" was added in 1954. I skip that line. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #11
That's the way I learned it and still say it. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #12
The one without GOD got us through 2 World Wars ashling Sep 2012 #13
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. I was in first grade in Catholic school
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:04 PM
Sep 2012

when the "Under God" was added.

The nuns were really unhappy with that, as I recall.

I no longer say the pledge, since it's actually quite creepy if you think about it to be pledging allegiance to the Flag. Really?

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
2. The USA adopted this pledge in 1942.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:06 PM
Sep 2012

In the McCarthy Era, the phrase "under God" was added in 1954. Nice poster!

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
4. The flag was saluted like this too...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:11 PM
Sep 2012

The pledge of allegiance was originally written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, a socialist magazine writer. When he wrote it for an children’s magazine, he also described a salute that he thought would be appropriate during its recital.

The pledge was aimed towards children, and the magazine also gave free flags away to schools, where the pledge was originally recited. The salute they were taught to give, with one stiff arm outstretched toward the flag, was deemed the “Bellamy salute” after its creator (who had gotten the idea from a salute that the Romans had done).



Above: The Bellamy Salute, before WWII In the early 1940s, it was noticed that the salute bore a resemblance to a certain other salute being used in Germany at the time (which was based off of the same original Roman salute). As a result, it was formally replaced by Congress with the now-customary hand-on-heart during the pledge.

http://forgottenhistoryblog.com/the-official-american-flag-salute-used-to-be-a-hitler-salute/


DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
6. It was added in 1954.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:17 PM
Sep 2012

My father was President of the local school board and told the teachers they could add or not add it. He personally thought it was unconstitutional. For ball games and such he suggested a slight pause after "one nation" and leave it to the individuals. In my little town there was usually complete silence during the pause for the first few years.

For decades we teased him about just not understanding McCarthyism and crazy right wingers.

He died in 2010 still thinking/arguing it was unconstitutional. Me, when I say the pledge allegiance I still remain silent during the "under god" part. But now it is my personal tribute to my Dad and it always causes me to smile.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
7. Nice. I too keep silent during the 2 word addition,
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:41 PM
Sep 2012

but now I'll think of your father when I do it.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
8. I remember it well
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:42 PM
Sep 2012

I was in Catholic school and the nuns were so giddy about it they were wetting themselves. Now, all those atheists would be forced to pray every time they said the pledge.

genxlib

(5,527 posts)
9. I would love to know
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:12 PM
Sep 2012

I would love to know how many of the professed "real" Americans know this.

I would put money on the fact that less than half of the God-fearing church-going types have any clue about this factoid.

I would actually be surprised if it is more that 25%.

Double or nothing that almost all of them assume that the Pledge dates back to the late 1700's rather than the late 1800's.

Triple or nothing that their heads would explode if they found out about the Jefferson Bible.

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
10. I just omit the two words. I'm an atheist.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:24 PM
Sep 2012

They're meaningless to me. I learned the old version in 1950, in kindergarten, and have just continued saying it that way. I get a dirty look now and then from someone. when I do, I just smile sweetly at the person.

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