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brooklynite

(94,757 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:52 AM Sep 2020

Biden Aced the Town Hall. Why Didn't Trump?

Bloomberg

Donald Trump is lucky that presidential elections aren’t decided by televised town-hall meetings. If they were, after his effort on ABC on Tuesday and Joe Biden’s on CNN Thursday, Trump would be lucky to clear 100 electoral votes. It’s not that Biden was all that great — he was fine, but nothing special. It’s that Trump was that bad, and in ways that made his opponent look even better.

The secret of these events, in which candidates answer questions directly from voters, is that they’re easy. For one thing, voters tend to ask policy questions, not process ones, and they’re usually pretty straightforward — what are you going to do about such-and-such? Normal politicians can easily anticipate the topics, and usually have a prepared riff or a five-point plan to address them. Biden did some of that Thursday night. He’s not great at it, not nearly as strong as (for example) Senator Elizabeth Warren is. But he’s good enough. And he’s usually excellent at taking advantage of the other opportunity the format provides, which is to show the ability to connect with voters and empathize with them.

Trump is barely able to do either of these things. He did manage to demonstrate empathy a couple of times on Tuesday, but unfortunately in one case he misunderstood the questioner and thought that her mother had died from the pandemic when in fact she had died of cancer. Most of the time, though, he didn’t bother. It’s not just that he didn’t get emotional. He didn’t seem to be listening to the questions. So when the same woman asked about immigration, Trump immediately said that “we are doing something with immigration that I think is going to be very strong” but he never got around to saying what this “something” would be. Then he started talking about a vaccine and other medications for the virus.

It’s not that ducking questions is necessarily bad; Biden did so a couple of times on Thursday. But he did so by answering a somewhat different question on the same general topic, and in ways that at least connected back to the original. Trump just doesn’t know how to do that.


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Biden Aced the Town Hall. Why Didn't Trump? (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2020 OP
Because Biden is an intelligent and patriotic American Yeehah Sep 2020 #1
+10000 Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #4
Because Biden actually value the expertise of experts. Claustrum Sep 2020 #2
This reads like a hatchet job DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #3
" Biden Aced the Town Hall"...Definitely a hatchet job brooklynite Sep 2020 #7
Good idea to read the article rather than just the headline DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #8
Snicker DarthDem Sep 2020 #5
I post on a bipartisan board Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #6

Yeehah

(4,595 posts)
1. Because Biden is an intelligent and patriotic American
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:54 AM
Sep 2020

and Trump is a stupid traitorous asshole?

Seems obvious to me.

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
4. +10000
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:11 AM
Sep 2020

Joe Biden is awesome. It would be great to have a president who can understand molecular Biology and can actually read.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
2. Because Biden actually value the expertise of experts.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:58 AM
Sep 2020

Biden invites them to sit around the table and actually listens to them. He asks intelligent questions and try to understand their points.

Trump, on the other hand, treats experts as a prop. They are only there to stand around while he keeps talking. He doesn't listen to them unless it's a point that reinforces his own view on the matter.

brooklynite

(94,757 posts)
7. " Biden Aced the Town Hall"...Definitely a hatchet job
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:05 AM
Sep 2020

Biden wasn't perfect; few politicians are. Which critique do you feel was unfair?

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
8. Good idea to read the article rather than just the headline
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:13 AM
Sep 2020

Check some other posts here too and form your own opinion after reading the article. As some pointed out, it's both-siderism.

No comparison between Trump's pathetic performance and Biden's. This author basically says Trump was bad, and Biden was just ok.

That's a hatchet job, constructing a new reality (i.e., Trump bad, Biden slightly better).

DarthDem

(5,257 posts)
5. Snicker
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:59 AM
Sep 2020

Bloomberg News draws you in with what promises to be a truthful headline, then savages Trump while engaged in loads of comepnsatory bothsiderism.

I'd say Bloomberg "aced" the article in the sense of getting the truth half right. In truth, Mr. Trump was just as horrible as they say. (He was actually even worse.) Biden, by contrast, was excellent.

Johnny2X2X

(19,140 posts)
6. I post on a bipartisan board
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:02 AM
Sep 2020

It's a board associated with the college I attended. The off topic board is all politics. After Tuesday, the thread on Trump's performance had zero Conservatives chiming in to defend his dreadful performance, they were totally MIA. Last night and today it's a lively debate, all the Dems are there to discuss how much better Biden did whole the Cons are seizing on a few of Joe's rambling moments.

Tells you everything, Cons really want to forget Tuesday, and feel the need to try to tear Joe's solid performance apart. Dems are excited by Biden's performance and know Trump was terrible Tuesday.

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