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elevator

(415 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:17 AM Sep 2020

Democrats need to be smart and hold off on threats

because I don't believe threatening to end the filibuster and pack the courts will work in their favor. Talk of ending the filibuster was already out there and a lot of folks wouldn't even know what it means. But, I believe talk of increasing the number of judges on the Supreme Court will motivate republicans, especially evangelicals and can hurt some of the Democratic senate races. I also believe it will frighten some independents and moderate republicans who are on the fence. Most informed liberals have acknowledged privately that both moves will be required to truly realize a progressive agenda in the years to come, but there is no need to shout about it. I just believe it will provide Trump cover in the debates to avoid talk of other issues and force Biden on the defense. These tings are better done in private with some Republicans who may side with Dems and help pressure Turtle.

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Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
2. I'd counter that those Indys/suburban women would be more worried about Roe than court packing...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:23 AM
Sep 2020

And energizing voters cuts both ways. There will surely be polls about this issue shortly so we'll see what they have to say.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
3. I think SOME Democrats should say it out loud...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:25 AM
Sep 2020

...but that Biden should simply smile and say “I have confidence that the Senate Republicans will hold to the principles they declared in 2016, and refuse to appoint a Supreme Court Justice during an election year. Since I trust them to do the right thing and wait until after the Inauguration, we have no need to think about expanding the Court.” Says it all, really.

pfitz59

(10,388 posts)
4. I disagree
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:25 AM
Sep 2020

Hanner the GOP for their hypocrisy. Make sure McConnell's 2016 statement is payed over and over again, Hammer every Senator who backed his 2016 stance. This is no time for hand-wringing and wisky-washy whining. Take the gloves off.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
7. I'm all in favor hammering the repugs
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:53 AM
Sep 2020

and being smart is not handwringing. But, threatening major changes to the status quo is confusing and scary for many folks. Do what is best to insure we win the senate and then take the appropriate action.

onetexan

(13,056 posts)
10. Yup, peddle to the metal. It's time to push the gas & accelerate forward. These bastard w not budge
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:58 AM
Sep 2020

so Dems need to fight hard. No more mr. nice guy BS. These are thugs we're dealing with. Logic doesn't work with them.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
8. In what way is it cowardly?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:55 AM
Sep 2020

making idle threats that you cannot implement without taking power is dumb and how cowards try to bluff. Be smart and hold your cards close is the way to win.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
12. Thought I said above to keep hammerring the repugs
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:45 PM
Sep 2020

but putting out false statements about another DU posters words is all to common unfortunately.

BootinUp

(47,179 posts)
11. So the on the fencers are gonna back in your face hypocrisy?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:01 PM
Sep 2020

come on, that isnt being on the fence. Moscow Mitch fans.

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