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LuvNewcastle

(16,855 posts)
6. Yep.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:09 PM
Sep 2020

My first reaction is to say it's a lie because Trump said it. Since everything he says is a lie, a partial truth, or an exaggeration, it's a pretty safe bet that it isn't true. I'm going to split the difference and say that the people who open his mail opened something that they thought could possibly be ricin, but wasn't.

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
9. That's Why I Don't Believe It
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:37 PM
Sep 2020

Unless one has access to very good crystalization hardware, & know-how, it's hard to get ricin with next to zero ricinoleic acids.
You & I could smell that artifact outside the envelope.
Dogs could be trained to ID it from 5 to 10 paces away.
That mail would never be cleared to the truck that goes to the WH.
And, if someone had the skills & equipment to weaponize ricin, they'd have the skills to make something much more deadly.
I don't believe their claim.
Your reliable sites are still just credible reporters of an administration we can't trust.
I don't believe ricin ever gets inside the building.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
11. It didn't get near the WH. it was found at the postal facility that checks every piece of mail.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:13 PM
Sep 2020

The facility isn't in the WH. It was set up in 2001 for the anthrax scare and is still in effect. It was detected there and then double checked at a lab.

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
15. Then It Was Not A Threat To The WH
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:11 AM
Sep 2020

Exactly as I said would occur, did.
So, they're exaggerating the threat.
Since postal workers don't open the packages, the risk of aerosolizing the agent was near zero.
Ricin requires a fairly high concentration to be deadly. A closed box of it poses very little risk.
The WH greatly overstated the threat here.

JohnnyRingo

(18,640 posts)
4. Sure fits Trump's narrative of the "radical left".
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:03 PM
Sep 2020

That's the catch phrase of the month and this conveniently dovetails.

If it's real, they'll probably come up with a suspect.
If it's fake, we won't hear again about it except at rallys.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
5. All mail headed to Congress or the WH goes to a screening
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:07 PM
Sep 2020

post office facility first. This was put into effect after 9/11 and the anthrax scares. This letter would never even have made it to the WH or anywhere near Trump.

2naSalit

(86,766 posts)
7. That kind of mail only ends up going to the offices of Democrats.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:21 PM
Sep 2020

I think it's another attempt to claim the news cycle from all the interest in the passing of RBG. He can't stand anyone else getting attention and leaving him out of it.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
8. That's my bet. Also, Baby needs attention.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:30 PM
Sep 2020

RBG's death took the spotlight away from him, and we can't have that now, can we? It's a twofer. This alleged "Ricin attack" not only gets him sympathy, it returns the attention back on him.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,891 posts)
10. Probably not. That people here have been so quick to claim fake news
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:49 PM
Sep 2020

makes us no better than the Fox watching nonthinkers.

There really is no reason for the Secret Service to make up something like this.

Anyone mailing anything to the White House ought to be aware that stuff addressed to the President doesn't just show up in some little office mailbox for him to look at. Everything is going to be opened and looked at.

So stop with the stupid conspiracy nonsense on this story already.

Bev54

(10,067 posts)
12. I do not understand this either, it is reported by all the news
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:22 PM
Sep 2020

agencies and it was not just to the WH but to other federal agencies, primarily in Texas. We have to do better than this, it is ok to be skeptical until it is verified, but I would say it has been verified. So why is everyone so quick to think there are not people out there that would like to get at Trump?

Mr.Bill

(24,317 posts)
13. We'll know if Trump says anything about it.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:33 PM
Sep 2020

Because the truth will be the exact opposite of whatever he says.

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