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With Forced In-Person Voting, If You Early Vote and Die Before Election Day, Does Your Vote Count? (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 OP
Yes, of course. Why wouldn't it? napi21 Sep 2020 #1
Yes, if you vote in person and die before election day, you vote counts. LisaL Sep 2020 #2
I'd put nothing past him MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #3
Yes DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #4
Yes, but you won't care. Sneederbunk Sep 2020 #5
How are they going to know who died? No one ever rsdsharp Sep 2020 #6
And how would they know which one is your vote? LisaL Sep 2020 #8
My NJ county records your signature, which machine used and the vote number for each voter. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #10
I've never heard of anybody trying to figure out how the LisaL Sep 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author rsdsharp Sep 2020 #7
Won't affect votes but yes they are trying to kill us Eliot Rosewater Sep 2020 #9
It does leftieNanner Sep 2020 #11
My county records the voter, the machine and the vote# on that machine. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #12
Interesting nt leftieNanner Sep 2020 #18
Once a vote is cast, it is not thrown out.... LeftInTX Sep 2020 #25
Yes. texasfiddler Sep 2020 #13
I've found dead people on the Census records, when doing genealogy research. Dem2theMax Sep 2020 #14
The date a census enumerator made it to a household could have been after the official census date. ARPad95 Sep 2020 #16
This one particular time really surprised me. Dem2theMax Sep 2020 #20
In Wisconsin, NO. Lefta Dissenter Sep 2020 #17
How do they know if someone dies? nt BainsBane Sep 2020 #24
I was the deputy clerk and chief election inspector Lefta Dissenter Sep 2020 #27
That seems like a lot of work BainsBane Sep 2020 #29
I can't say I envy the Clerk this year. (N/t) Lefta Dissenter Sep 2020 #30
Wisconsin election law Lefta Dissenter Sep 2020 #31
Yes as long as you were alive when you voted. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #19
I really don't understand the fear around in person voting. GulfCoast66 Sep 2020 #21
The poll workers are at risk. LeftInTX Sep 2020 #23
Yes LeftInTX Sep 2020 #22
Yes...my father's vote counted in 2012 Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #26
If you're a repub, yes ecstatic Sep 2020 #28

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
2. Yes, if you vote in person and die before election day, you vote counts.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:52 PM
Sep 2020

How would they figure out which one is your vote to remove it?

rsdsharp

(9,202 posts)
6. How are they going to know who died? No one ever
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:56 PM
Sep 2020

contacted me after early voting to check to see if I was still alive on Election Day. 128 million voted in 2016; that a lot of phone calls to make.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
15. I've never heard of anybody trying to figure out how the
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:33 PM
Sep 2020

voter voted to remove their vote. I suppose it's theoretically possible depending on equipment used.
But I have never heard of it being done.

Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
9. Won't affect votes but yes they are trying to kill us
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:59 PM
Sep 2020

When I suggested they wanted to kill us four years ago I had to run for cover each time.

Hell just two months ago I had to take forced cover when I suggested barr would arrest Democrats

leftieNanner

(15,154 posts)
11. It does
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:15 PM
Sep 2020

Because once you cast your secret ballot, there's no way to take it back

That's my thinking anyway.

TheBlackAdder

(28,216 posts)
12. My county records the voter, the machine and the vote# on that machine.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:23 PM
Sep 2020

.

Also, on paper ballots, there might be micro dots that show up under black light.

The same method they use to track people's printer ids on things from home/office and mailing them in.

.

LeftInTX

(25,556 posts)
25. Once a vote is cast, it is not thrown out....
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:00 AM
Sep 2020

The only way it would be thrown out is if there is some kind of voter fraud. (Someone voting twice etc). Even then it will be a legal battle between candidates to see who gets the actual vote.

If someone is still registered and they voted before they died, then it is a legitimate vote.

Dem2theMax

(9,654 posts)
14. I've found dead people on the Census records, when doing genealogy research.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:30 PM
Sep 2020

They got counted. Yes, if you voted and then you die, your vote is still counted.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
16. The date a census enumerator made it to a household could have been after the official census date.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:47 PM
Sep 2020

Anyone alive as of the official census date (e.g., April 1st) was counted even if they had died by the time the census taker came (e.g., April 15th). Babies born after the official census date were not counted.

Dem2theMax

(9,654 posts)
20. This one particular time really surprised me.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:53 PM
Sep 2020

I really wondered how far in advance, or how far after the actual date of the census, they were still walking around door to door, compiling information.

I was looking at one specific family, and I had already found the mom and two of her children in a graveyard.
One was an infant, but I can't remember how old the baby was.

But there they were on the census. I just assumed that they must have died shortly after the enumerator had been to their house. It was so sad to see. 😟

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
17. In Wisconsin, NO.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:51 PM
Sep 2020

Your ballot stays in the return envelope that has the certification signed by you and witnessed. If you drop dead before Election Day, your ballot is supposed to be pulled and not counted.

That’s why I’ve told my family that if I’m hit by a truck between now and Election Day, I expect to be kept on life support until November 4th.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
27. I was the deputy clerk and chief election inspector
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:27 PM
Sep 2020

for a small municipality in Wisconsin. The clerk would peruse the obituaries in the weeks prior to any election, and if there were any Town residents listed, he’d check to see if they had already turned in an absentee ballot. Of course, far fewer people were voting absentee at that time, so I don’t remember any ballot actually being pulled for that reason.

The ballots stayed in their certificate envelopes until Election Day, so we could easily find someone’s ballot for any reason, even if the voter decided he’d prefer to vote in person or thought he might have made an error.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
29. That seems like a lot of work
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:30 PM
Sep 2020

especially with all the absentee ballots that will be submitted this year.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
31. Wisconsin election law
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:37 PM
Sep 2020
https://elections.wi.gov/node/94

“ If a voter casts an absentee ballot, but dies before election day, can the ballot be counted?
No. Absentee voting procedures allow an elector to complete a ballot before election day. However, absentee ballots are not considered cast until election day. If the voter is deceased at the time the absentee ballot is being processed at the polling place, the ballot cannot be counted. S. 6.21, Wis. Stats.”


I don’t know how other states do it, of course.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. I really don't understand the fear around in person voting.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 12:37 AM
Sep 2020

I did it here in Florida during the primary. Everyone was distant in line. Everyone wore masks. Hand sanitizer everywhere. No one came within 6 feet of me even the poll workers.

It was safer than Publix which here is pretty safe.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
26. Yes...my father's vote counted in 2012
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:13 AM
Sep 2020

One of the last things he did was fill out an absentee vote for Obama from the intensive care unit. I mailed it for him. Dad died two weeks before election day.

Marc Caputo of the Miami Herald was very thoughtful a few weeks later. The Herald ran a story on several votes that did not count due to death of the voter. I was upset and assumed my dad's vote was one of them. I contacted Caputo and he looked into it for me. He said my dad's vote did count. Then he complimented us on the obituary and said it sounded like my dad had an interesting life. After that I always read his articles and columns with greater interest level.

I wish Caputo were still doing the Politico Florida Playbook every day. Interesting feature that I get via email. Worthwhile if you want to keep up with political doings in Florida, in blurb form. Generally one or two paragraphs per topic. The writer is now Gary Fineout.

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