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Nevilledog

(51,201 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:53 AM Sep 2020

Tim Kaine takes fighting Trump's court takeover off the table: 'I'm asking Republicans to be true.."




Tim Kaine takes fighting Trump’s court takeover off the table: ‘I’m asking Republicans to be true to their word’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/tim-kaine-takes-fighting-trumps-court-takeover-off-the-table-im-asking-republicans-to-be-true-to-their-word/


Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) said on Monday that drastic measures to stop President Donald Trump’s next Supreme Court nominee are off the table because he hopes Republicans will be “true to their word” by refusing to confirm a new justice in an election year.

During an interview with Kaine on MSNBC, host Hallie Jackson noted that some Democrats have suggested using impeachment and other legislative techniques to delay the replacement of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Kaine, however, said that his strategy is based on the “hope” that Republicans will keep their word.

“Would you support impeaching either President Trump or Attorney General Bill Barr as a way to essentially delay the Senate on a vote for the president’s court nominee?” Jackson asked the Virginia Democrat.

*snip*


WTAF??????
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Tim Kaine takes fighting Trump's court takeover off the table: 'I'm asking Republicans to be true.." (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
Cripes. That's like asking a snake not to swallow things whole. tinrobot Sep 2020 #1
That's not going to work, Tim. BKDem Sep 2020 #2
Meh... Just keeping powder dry before the election as they all should do hlthe2b Sep 2020 #3
Looks like Tim lives in a bubble. jalan48 Sep 2020 #4
I have to believe he's just playing moderate AleksS Sep 2020 #5
WTF??? C'mon Sen. Kaine! This is not why I voted for you! lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #6
omfg uponit7771 Sep 2020 #7
Bad choice for V.P. and proving my point. sarcasmo Sep 2020 #8
Ya. CentralMass Sep 2020 #17
'I'm asking Republicans to be true to their word' Botany Sep 2020 #9
Ultimately ScratchCat Sep 2020 #10
What happened to everyone who "hoped" the Nazis would be nice to them? CaptainTruth Sep 2020 #11
Mcconnell qazplm135 Sep 2020 #12
If SC hearings are OK during voting in an election year, then so is impeachment. Victory at Yorktown Sep 2020 #13
Please tell me that the ought-to-be-VP is the designated "good cop"... JHB Sep 2020 #14
He needs to be primaried. triron Sep 2020 #15
I like what he is doing. Put pressure on the Republicans. Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #16
Tim Kaine asking Republicans to do the right thing, is putting pressure on the Republicans? sarcasmo Sep 2020 #20
Like the frog and the scorpion demosincebirth Sep 2020 #18
What leadership does not look like for $200 Alec JDC Sep 2020 #19
I hope he's just speaking for himself. Also Cha Sep 2020 #21
Tim for fucks sake read the story of the Scorpion and the Fox. nt Statistical Sep 2020 #22
And to think I just had an email argument with moonscape Sep 2020 #23
Go back to bed, Tim PlanetBev Sep 2020 #24
Jesus Christ. Here we go again... SMC22307 Sep 2020 #25
Seriously, Tim? Have you been following this administration? Initech Sep 2020 #26
I have to agree BGBD Sep 2020 #27

hlthe2b

(102,378 posts)
3. Meh... Just keeping powder dry before the election as they all should do
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:58 AM
Sep 2020

They can hint at repercussions without committing to any such course.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
5. I have to believe he's just playing moderate
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:00 PM
Sep 2020

for the moment and doesn’t actually believe that.

The alternative: that he’s stupid enough to believe a republican will stick to their word, is unacceptable.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. WTF??? C'mon Sen. Kaine! This is not why I voted for you!
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:02 PM
Sep 2020

Seriously? You think Reptilicans will do anything honorable? ANYTHING, EVER? Your office is going to hear from me.

Botany

(70,588 posts)
9. 'I'm asking Republicans to be true to their word'
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:05 PM
Sep 2020

Please Tim ... these are the same people who worked with Russia to rat fuck our elections.

ScratchCat

(2,002 posts)
10. Ultimately
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:05 PM
Sep 2020

The only choice of action is to refuse to participate in a confirmation hearing and "let history" judge the GOP if they insist on going forward alone. I think Schumer is on good grounds to hold a prime time press conference, spell it all out for the American people with the words of Republicans from 2016 and ask if this is what they really want to support. Graham's silly "Kavenaugh" excuse makes no sense and we are weeks away from the election. I think Chuck can easily make a case the American people support.

13. If SC hearings are OK during voting in an election year, then so is impeachment.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:14 PM
Sep 2020

They should be linked - if they proceed with the SC nomination then impeachment proceeds immediately for abuse of office, obstruction of justice, breaking campaign financing laws, and violating the emoluments clause. And let them continue through the election with a more favorable senate.

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)
16. I like what he is doing. Put pressure on the Republicans.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:39 PM
Sep 2020

That doesn't mean we won't go all out if we have too. But we aren't going to give away our strategy.

Cha

(297,693 posts)
21. I hope he's just speaking for himself. Also
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:15 PM
Sep 2020

hope that Dems get to him & have a Short talk.. as in WTF, Tim?!

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
23. And to think I just had an email argument with
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:19 PM
Sep 2020

a friend, saying he was wrong, that of course the democrats were going to fight with everything they had on this.

Stopit Kaine. Just stopit.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
27. I have to agree
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:06 PM
Sep 2020

we dont have a mechanism to fight this, outside of the nomination of a fatally flawed judge. We just don't have a card to play.

We can't ahutdown the government over it, it'll hurt us.

If you read RAGE, there is a snippet in there where I believe Graham talks about how they do things knowing that we will overplay our hands and they will get away with it while we get hit.

This needs to change and we need to play this smarter. We need to gain power before we can exercise it. Focus on the election and we can deal with the courts and other things on the other side.

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