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Trump says "they found ballots with his his name in a river and in a waste basket"! (Original Post) imanamerican63 Sep 2020 OP
Pictures and dates ... or it did not happen. Moostache Sep 2020 #1
So, without someone opening them, how'd they know they were taking Biden or Trump ballots? TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #43
What about using DNA testing on the ballots.... :} nt Boogiemack Sep 2020 #60
Sure, Donny... Suuuuure... Blue Owl Sep 2020 #2
People with dementia say all kinds of crazy stuff. Siwsan Sep 2020 #3
Agreed, based on sad family experience. JohnnyLib2 Sep 2020 #19
Same here. It runs strong on the maternal side of the family Siwsan Sep 2020 #30
He is also an idiot. Statistical Sep 2020 #4
LOL...every day is better with a little Cotton McKnight and Pepper Brooks referencing! Moostache Sep 2020 #45
He needs to be called on this pandr32 Sep 2020 #5
The Department of Justice is trying to help him steal Pennsylvania: Mike 03 Sep 2020 #6
Military ballots were how Dubyah won Florida in 2000. rzemanfl Sep 2020 #24
Correction? Did he actually "win" Florida? Moostache Sep 2020 #61
"Cheated their way through" is a qualifier of "won." I should have said "stole." rzemanfl Sep 2020 #62
The link appears broken Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2020 #38
Curious to know where mail-in ballots have even yet been distributed. Sogo Sep 2020 #7
North Carolina since early September Claire Oh Nette Sep 2020 #63
No. Really? Laelth Sep 2020 #8
there is this.. stillcool Sep 2020 #14
Well. That's something. Laelth Sep 2020 #16
stinks...9 military ballots... all voting for Trump stillcool Sep 2020 #21
Or nine spoiled ballots that were thrown away Bettie Sep 2020 #55
ohhhhh.... stillcool Sep 2020 #57
This is speculation, but they did take the Bettie Sep 2020 #59
He made this up. madaboutharry Sep 2020 #9
That ought to tell trump something, people are sick of his crud. Hoyt Sep 2020 #10
something fishy in PA stillcool Sep 2020 #11
This isn't fishy - if absentee ballots arrive too late they can't be counted FakeNoose Sep 2020 #53
wow...these were primary ballots? stillcool Sep 2020 #58
The mailed ballots for PA are just going out today and for the next few days FakeNoose Sep 2020 #64
So - is he now claiming Democrats are trashing vote ballots for him? Pachamama Sep 2020 #12
Sounds like a "sir" story mixed ballots and Moses. soothsayer Sep 2020 #13
This is media's fault. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #15
What do you expect from a compulsive liar? GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #17
That was Rump having a nightmare last night. LuvJoesPartner Sep 2020 #18
Should we play the lying game too? dubyadiprecession Sep 2020 #20
I don't often use cuss words but there are times: This one deserves a 'BS'. n/t Paper Roses Sep 2020 #22
Maybe they were rejected because they weren't in the privacy envelope Walleye Sep 2020 #23
When Trump is wrong about something he says he tries to make it right. pwb Sep 2020 #25
Trump's vote sleeps with the fishes lame54 Sep 2020 #26
Strange they were only for Trump Mossfern Sep 2020 #27
No doubt AG Bill Barr is on the case. procon Sep 2020 #28
REPORTER: There were no names on them TRUMP: Well, they still found them in a river. soothsayer Sep 2020 #29
Wouldn't all the ballots have his name on them, as well as Biden's? frazzled Sep 2020 #32
Right! He's such a lying liar soothsayer Sep 2020 #36
And he got Hillary in there for extra points! nolabear Sep 2020 #49
Good lord, we need someone MuseRider Sep 2020 #31
Those not ballots. Those invoices workers sent to Trump.He had a dumping company dispose of them.n/t delisen Sep 2020 #33
Where is the proof, tRump*? Otherwise it's just another one of your lies. Raster Sep 2020 #34
It was an act of safeinOhio Sep 2020 #35
I wish they would find him in a river in a waste basket. StarryNite Sep 2020 #37
They were right next to Obama's birth certificate crazylikafox Sep 2020 #39
If so the plausible explanation is that Trump's team arranged for them to be there Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #40
Exactly! imanamerican63 Sep 2020 #42
Yup nt Sunsky Sep 2020 #51
He lies about everything Fullduplexxx Sep 2020 #41
It's a set up to help prove his rhetoric. nt BlueLucy Sep 2020 #44
The found absentee ballots and other mail in a ditch in Wisconsin DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 2020 #46
Who is "they?" cwydro Sep 2020 #47
I remember in 2012 republicans caught doing something with votes in Virginia rockfordfile Sep 2020 #48
Has Luzerne County PRETZEL Sep 2020 #50
This made me laugh. octoberlib Sep 2020 #52
Shut the fuck up Donny!!! Initech Sep 2020 #54
And that was 100% of your votes. world wide wally Sep 2020 #56

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
1. Pictures and dates ... or it did not happen.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:35 PM
Sep 2020

Period.

He is a liar, period. Nothing he says is true or deserves the benefit of the doubt.

TheBlackAdder

(28,220 posts)
43. So, without someone opening them, how'd they know they were taking Biden or Trump ballots?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:07 PM
Sep 2020

.

Perhaps these are those scam ballots Georgia was mailing all over the place.

.

Siwsan

(26,293 posts)
3. People with dementia say all kinds of crazy stuff.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:36 PM
Sep 2020

And it's only going to get worse. Much, much worse. Maybe some people who aren't already concerned will start to become concerned.

JohnnyLib2

(11,212 posts)
19. Agreed, based on sad family experience.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:42 PM
Sep 2020

I wouldn't wish dementia on anyone, but if we are on the right track---let his nonsense talk get unmistakable!

Siwsan

(26,293 posts)
30. Same here. It runs strong on the maternal side of the family
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:49 PM
Sep 2020

My mother, one of her sisters and 2 of her brothers.

I think they should pull the medical licenses of the physicians who are giving him a pass.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
4. He is also an idiot.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:36 PM
Sep 2020

It discourages people from voting for him by mail. But some of the people who decide today they will vote in person on election day may change their mind. Maybe the number of cases goes up, maybe someone they know gets sick. At the last minute they decide to not vote at all where they might have voted by mail.

Not not diehard trumpers of course but Trump needs votes beyond the diehard Trumpers.

He is basically telling people don't bother voting for me it won't count. That is a bold play lets see if it works for him.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
6. The Department of Justice is trying to help him steal Pennsylvania:
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:36 PM
Sep 2020
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdpa/pr/statement-us-attorney-freed-inquiry-reports-potential-issues-mail-ballots

Was just issued today. According to experts, statements such as these are not to be issued before an investigation is complete.

EDIT: I have no earthly clue where the "ballots in the river" stuff came from. The other allegation is in the new statement from the DOJ. I'm really having trouble believing this. It's just too convenient.

rzemanfl

(29,570 posts)
24. Military ballots were how Dubyah won Florida in 2000.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:47 PM
Sep 2020

Lots of hinky shit, an administrative rule that supposedly changed a statute (When a Judge in Tallahassee asked how that could happen the Repuke lawyers ran like scared rabbits). The Repukes cheated their way through. Dems were afraid to challenge military ballots. James Baker and Roger Stone. Same shit different day.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
61. Correction? Did he actually "win" Florida?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 05:38 PM
Sep 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election_recount_in_Florida

Potential statewide vote count in absence of all decisions:

GORE:
2,919,276
48.85%

BUSH:
2,918,292
48.84%

984 margin - if all election decisions related to legitimate ballots had been eliminated - FOR GORE...
Impact of all decisions on candidates' potential statewide totals:
GORE:
-7023

BUSH:
-5502

THAT is how we went from a legitimate country to a banana republic - via election theft and installation of an illegitimate President once, then a bastardization of the congress and use of minority power in redistricting and census of 2010, then Citizens United, then Garland, then 2016, now Trump/McConnell/GOP hypocrisy and total trashing of the SCOTUS as a legitimate branch of government.

rzemanfl

(29,570 posts)
62. "Cheated their way through" is a qualifier of "won." I should have said "stole."
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 05:47 PM
Sep 2020

That's what happened.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. No. Really?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:38 PM
Sep 2020

That’s just paranoid delusion. Did he actually say that? If so, is there any evidence that supports this ridiculous claim?



-Laelth

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
14. there is this..
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:39 PM
Sep 2020
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdpa/pr/statement-us-attorney-freed-inquiry-reports-potential-issues-mail-ballots
U.S. Attorneys » Middle District of Pennsylvania » News
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Department of Justice
U.S. Attorney’s Office
Middle District of Pennsylvania
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, September 24, 2020
Statement Of U.S. Attorney Freed On Inquiry Into Reports Of Potential Issues With Mail-In Ballots
HARRISBURG - On Monday, September 21, 2020, at the request of Luzerne County District Attorney Stefanie Salavantis, the Office of the United States Attorney along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Scranton Resident Office, began an inquiry into reports of potential issues with a small number of mail-in ballots at the Luzerne County Board of Elections.

Since Monday, FBI personnel working together with the Pennsylvania State Police have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. Election officials in Luzerne County have been cooperative. At this point we can confirm that a small number of military ballots were discarded. Investigators have recovered nine ballots at this time. Some of those ballots can be attributed to specific voters and some cannot. All nine ballots were cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Our inquiry remains ongoing and we expect later today to share our up to date findings with officials in Luzerne County. It is the vital duty of government to ensure that every properly cast vote is counted.




Bettie

(16,128 posts)
55. Or nine spoiled ballots that were thrown away
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:33 PM
Sep 2020

and now they are trying to make something out of nothing.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
57. ohhhhh....
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 05:02 PM
Sep 2020

how do you like that...and the feds put this out? Holy schmoly. Let the good times roll. Thanks

Bettie

(16,128 posts)
59. This is speculation, but they did take the
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 05:07 PM
Sep 2020

piece off their website, so there was something going on there.

The only way ballots generally end up in the trash is if they are spoiled and a new one issued.

madaboutharry

(40,221 posts)
9. He made this up.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:38 PM
Sep 2020

They were in a garbage can....they were in a river.....they were in a waste basket.....look, a squirrel....

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
11. something fishy in PA
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:38 PM
Sep 2020

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdpa/pr/statement-us-attorney-freed-inquiry-reports-potential-issues-mail-ballots
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, September 24, 2020
Statement Of U.S. Attorney Freed On Inquiry Into Reports Of Potential Issues With Mail-In Ballots
HARRISBURG - On Monday, September 21, 2020, at the request of Luzerne County District Attorney Stefanie Salavantis, the Office of the United States Attorney along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Scranton Resident Office, began an inquiry into reports of potential issues with a small number of mail-in ballots at the Luzerne County Board of Elections.

Since Monday, FBI personnel working together with the Pennsylvania State Police have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. Election officials in Luzerne County have been cooperative. At this point we can confirm that a small number of military ballots were discarded. Investigators have recovered nine ballots at this time. Some of those ballots can be attributed to specific voters and some cannot. All nine ballots were cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Our inquiry remains ongoing and we expect later today to share our up to date findings with officials in Luzerne County. It is the vital duty of government to ensure that every properly cast vote is counted.

FakeNoose

(32,773 posts)
53. This isn't fishy - if absentee ballots arrive too late they can't be counted
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:31 PM
Sep 2020

Not just military ballots but any absentee / mailed ballot has a deadline by which it must be mailed and received. Anything that arrives past the stated deadline cannot be counted because the numbers have already been tallied and reported.

We should all make every effort to mail our ballots as early as possible - even two or three weeks early if possible. We need to follow all of the instructions, including using the privacy envelope that must be signed by the registered voter. (If signatures don't match, the mailed ballot could be discarded.)

If the government participates in a scheme to DELAY the ballots - well that's another matter. I will be sure to get a USPS receipt and tracking number when I mail my ballot this time.


stillcool

(32,626 posts)
58. wow...these were primary ballots?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 05:04 PM
Sep 2020

Pennsylvania hasn't started voting yet? Jeeze..and the Feds did this.

FakeNoose

(32,773 posts)
64. The mailed ballots for PA are just going out today and for the next few days
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:44 PM
Sep 2020

Nobody has receive their November ballots yet, so this story is about the previous voting last Spring - the primary election. I think we're done here.


LakeArenal

(28,847 posts)
15. This is media's fault.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:40 PM
Sep 2020

They have ALWAYS let him get away without naming sources.

On every effin topic.

It so aggravating.

dubyadiprecession

(5,722 posts)
20. Should we play the lying game too?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:44 PM
Sep 2020

How about:
Several women who trump has shown his penis to on Jeffrey Epstein pedifile Island claim trump’s penis is extremely small, but covered in anal warts.
Prostitutes in Moscow and Minsk confirmed it.

pwb

(11,292 posts)
25. When Trump is wrong about something he says he tries to make it right.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:47 PM
Sep 2020

If he lied he will lie more that is his fix. It makes him sound like a child.

Mossfern

(2,555 posts)
27. Strange they were only for Trump
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:48 PM
Sep 2020

that means someone must have opened them first.
I'd say it was a false flag operation.

procon

(15,805 posts)
28. No doubt AG Bill Barr is on the case.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:49 PM
Sep 2020

Trump isn't even capable of telling plausible lies. He's so stupid he doesn't know our voting system works. He thinks ballots with his name on them are segregated from the one's for Biden. Or there are piles of ballots stacked up somewhere, free for the taking for anyone who has the time to drive out to the nearest river, then haul just the special Trump ballots out to a spot where there could be easily found and toss them in the water.

5 YO kids can tell better whoppers than this mess of fantasy words.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
29. REPORTER: There were no names on them TRUMP: Well, they still found them in a river.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:49 PM
Sep 2020

?s=21

Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
TRUMP: The ballots -- that's a whole big scam. They found 8 ballots in a waste basket, others in a river. They throw 'em out if they have the name Trump on them.

REPORTER: There were no names on them

TRUMP: Well, they still found them in a river.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
32. Wouldn't all the ballots have his name on them, as well as Biden's?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:53 PM
Sep 2020

I mean, those are the two major candidates on every ballot.

There aren't Trump ballots and Biden ballots.

MuseRider

(34,122 posts)
31. Good lord, we need someone
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:52 PM
Sep 2020

who does not act like a toddler.

Meeting with Nancy Pelosi............."She BIT me, she did I swear she bit me. People say this is typical of the radical left, I can tell you, it was a bite like you have never seen."

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
40. If so the plausible explanation is that Trump's team arranged for them to be there
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:05 PM
Sep 2020

and subsequently found. What he is alleging is not voter fraud, it is the federal crime of tampering with the mail.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,927 posts)
46. The found absentee ballots and other mail in a ditch in Wisconsin
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:20 PM
Sep 2020

[link:https://www.wbay.com/2020/09/24/absentee-ballots-mail-found-along-outagamie-county-ditch/|]

The U.S. Postal Inspection Service is investigating after absentee ballots and other mail was found along a ditch in Outagamie County.


No word on if the ballots were filled out though. With other mail being found with them I'd lean more towards some got dropped out of a bag accidently or something.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
50. Has Luzerne County
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:25 PM
Sep 2020

actually sent their ballots out yet?

I got an email on Monday that I won't be getting mine for another week or so. I live in Montgomery County.

Maybe spoiled primary ballots?

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