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(11,879 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Nevilledog
(51,201 posts)underpants
(182,884 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Look for the entire playbook of ratfucking elections to get trotted out, trying to sow confusion and fear. People will be told to vote on Wednesday instead of Tuesday. People will be told that if they don't follow every last jot and tittle of the law, they will be thrown in jail for voting illegally (the object lesson of Crystal Mason in Texas will be very useful for this one). People will be threatened with their jobs and their housing for voting.
No, none of it is true, but that's not the point. The point is to discourage even one voter per precinct, and it will be a good day's work of ratfucking.
Nevilledog
(51,201 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,796 posts)Bettie
(16,127 posts)LOL. NO one believes anything from this government anymore.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)Mail-in ballot law in Pennsylvania has driven out nearly a quarter of state's top election officials
The race in the battleground state is expected to be tight and top Pennsylvania elections officials have already said not to expect results on election night.
Sept. 19, 2020, 11:32 AM EDT / Updated Sept. 19, 2020, 12:09 PM EDT
By Maura Barrett and Matt Wargo
PHILADELPHIA, Pa. More than a dozen counties in Pennsylvania have seen election directors or deputy directors leave in the last year since a new law was passed to accommodate no-excuse mail-in voting across the state, three county officials familiar with the movement tell NBC News.
The general assembly, the courts, and the governor have created a s---show of an election. Nobody truly understands whats what, one county election official said, nobody has a grasp.
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Multiple officials across the state point to the constant changes on how to run the election during the pandemic, in addition to delays due to legal battles. For example, counties couldnt start printing, testing, and mailing out their ballots until the list was certified late Thursday, after a hold up due to a lawsuit over whether Green Party candidates could be on the ballot.
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Everybodys had it, one county election official said. We dont get paid enough, were working 15 or 16 hours days, and [the Department of State] keeps changing everything and so we have to keep throwing stuff away. Its a waste of our offices resources. Its just insane. Ive been through tough elections before and never seen anything like this ever. And with the new laws on top of it, its unreal.
edit to add....
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/mail-ballot-law-pennsylvania-has-driven-out-nearly-quarter-state-n1240504
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)Seriously?
stillcool
(32,626 posts)It doesn't say how many employees left since the beginning of the year, or if they all left for the same reason, but PA has been making it into the news of late. Maybe smoke?
ret5hd
(20,523 posts)My understanding is:
1) a mail in ballot is filled out
2) this ballot is placed in a privacy envelope with no identifying marks
3) this envelope is placed inside the mailing envelope
4) this envelope and contents are then mailed
So...what are they claiming was found?
1) A bare ballot? How do they know they were ever mailed?
2) A ballot in a privacy envelope? Same question as above, and ALSO...who opened it???
3) A completed ballot in both the privacy and mailing envelope? OMG...who opened it? Who invaded the privacy of the vote to discover how this person voted... whose identity and vote they are now aware of?
Of course, I am assuming for this argument that the entire story is true and not utter bullshit.
crickets
(25,983 posts)Revised Statement Of U.S. Attorney Freed On Inquiry Into Reports Of Potential Issues With Mail-In Ballots
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdpa/pr/revised-statement-us-attorney-freed-inquiry-reports-potential-issues-mail-ballots
Since Monday, FBI personnel working together with the Pennsylvania State Police have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. Election officials in Luzerne County have been cooperative. At this point we can confirm that a small number of military ballots were discarded. Investigators have recovered nine ballots at this time. Some of those ballots can be attributed to specific voters and some cannot. Of the nine ballots that were discarded and then recovered, 7 were cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump. Two of the discarded ballots had been resealed inside their appropriate envelopes by Luzerne elections staff prior to recovery by the FBI and the contents of those 2 ballots are unknown.
Our inquiry remains ongoing and we expect later today to share our up to date findings with officials in Luzerne County. It is the vital duty of government to ensure that every properly cast vote is counted.
This is not really informative at all.
Found link here:
Link to tweet