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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,274 posts)
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:30 PM Sep 2020

Why Four Pivotal Swing States Likely Won't Be Called On Election Night

The 2020 election is already underway in several states, but that doesn’t mean the rules aren’t still changing. (We’re tracking them all here.) In the past eight days alone, four important swing states have tentatively extended the deadline by which mail ballots must be received.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that ballots can arrive as late as Nov. 6 and still count as long as no evidence (e.g., a postmark) exists that they were mailed after Election Day (Nov. 3).

A state judge in Michigan decreed that ballots can be counted as long as they are postmarked by the day before the election (Nov. 2) and received by Nov. 17.

A federal judge ordered Wisconsin to count absentee ballots that are postmarked by Nov. 3 as long as they arrive by Nov. 9.

And North Carolina reached a tentative court settlement with plaintiffs that, among other things, would allow ballots to count as long as they are postmarked by Nov. 3 and arrive by Nov. 12. (However, the settlement still needs to be approved by a judge before it officially goes into effect.)

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvania-michigan-wisconsin-north-carolina-likely-wont-be-called-on-election-night/

The corpulent creep isn't going to like this.

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Why Four Pivotal Swing States Likely Won't Be Called On Election Night (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2020 OP
But Trump will try to use this to his advantage to sow fear and doubt DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #1
After experiencing first hand what happened in WI in April, I will not trust any court rulings that 33taw Sep 2020 #2
People that vote by mail should take a photo of their filled out ballot, making Blue_true Sep 2020 #14
If Biden wins WI, PA & MI by his current average, they'll be called on election night. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #3
Except it's been estimated that 50% of Democrats will vote by mail... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #4
Depending on the workforce and volunteers they have, there jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #8
I think what will happen PRETZEL Sep 2020 #9
We should know FL results election night - if Biden wins FL, it's all over. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #5
Florida cheats in elections. iemitsu Sep 2020 #11
This. Vote in numbers to large to allow cheating! nt crickets Sep 2020 #12
Yep. I will vote and encourage everyone I know to do so also. iemitsu Sep 2020 #13
Isn't going to like it? This works to trumps advantage. tman Sep 2020 #6
They are wrong about NC jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #7
FBI issues PSA contradicting trump that winner has to be called the night of the election Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #10
I've said this for weeks. People don't seem to believe me. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #15
Yes, but hyping the red mirage is good judeling Sep 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #17
Ohio is in play...if he loses Ohio...the large woman will sing and sing. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #18

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
1. But Trump will try to use this to his advantage to sow fear and doubt
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:34 PM
Sep 2020

I am so hoping that the EV numbers for Joe are so great that any delay in any state past the night of November 3/morning of November 4 won't change his victory.

Otherwise, Infector Boi will create doubt as to the results at very possible opportunity.

33taw

(2,448 posts)
2. After experiencing first hand what happened in WI in April, I will not trust any court rulings that
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:38 PM
Sep 2020

have not been ruled on by the US Supreme Court. That ruling the night before the election moved up the due date by a week. The ruling also unexpectedly resulted in overwhelming support from Democrats coming to the polls on Election Day to support the liberal justice candidate. I personally had to hand deliver my ballot on Election Day to to a national guardsmen -which I gladly did.

Please vote early and make sure to use paper ballots. Republicans hate paper ballots because the have an audit trail - automated voting stations do not. Also, either personally deliver your ballot or verify that it has been received in enough time to remedy any issues.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. People that vote by mail should take a photo of their filled out ballot, making
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:52 PM
Sep 2020

sure that their voter ID number is clear in the picture of who they voted for President.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
3. If Biden wins WI, PA & MI by his current average, they'll be called on election night.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:40 PM
Sep 2020

Right now, Biden leads by an average of 6.6 points in Wisconsin.

That's about .34 points less than Obama in 2012.

Obama won Wisconsin by over 210,000 votes.

Turnout will likely be up, so Biden, with that percentage, would be up 220,000 votes or so with that margin.

Very improbable that there would be 200,000+ outstanding ballots that could come in.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
4. Except it's been estimated that 50% of Democrats will vote by mail...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:55 PM
Sep 2020

So it’s conceivable that, even with those poll numbers, Twitler will be up by 60%-40% or more there on Election Night.

jorgevlorgan

(8,337 posts)
8. Depending on the workforce and volunteers they have, there
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:38 PM
Sep 2020

Will be a lot of those votes still counted on election day. But we hope that mi, pa and wi are not the deciders of this race again. If Biden loses FL and NC, it will be very bad. We will also know whether he does win on election day unless those states are super close. Ohio will also likely be an early call based on in person and mail ballots that are counted super early as well.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
9. I think what will happen
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:38 PM
Sep 2020

will be most of the networks will go with the "too close to call" all night.

They're not going to put themselves in a bad position.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
13. Yep. I will vote and encourage everyone I know to do so also.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:28 PM
Sep 2020

But my vote won't be counted or cast aside in Florida.

jorgevlorgan

(8,337 posts)
7. They are wrong about NC
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:35 PM
Sep 2020

They start counting mail votes weeks in advance. They will release those counts as soon as polls close. Unless it is close, we will know who won North Carolina on election day, because the late counted votes aren't likely to make a huge dent to matter.

Thekaspervote

(32,803 posts)
10. FBI issues PSA contradicting trump that winner has to be called the night of the election
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:49 PM
Sep 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214125912

Other experts besides 538 seem to feel it won’t be a problem


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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
15. I've said this for weeks. People don't seem to believe me.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:54 PM
Sep 2020

I get that there will be outstanding ballots for those who mailed their ballots on election day, or the day before, but at the margins Biden is looking at in some of these states, that would result in a 150-250,000 vote lead. It's hard to believe there would be 100,000 = let alone that many, outstanding ballots.

judeling

(1,086 posts)
16. Yes, but hyping the red mirage is good
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:14 PM
Sep 2020

the more people get accustomed to the idea that we may have to wait the better. If it gets called for Biden election night that will make it even stronger.

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