For the Pro-lifers in response to RBG

[samplegirl]

Thought this was interesting....
For those one-issue voters & that issue is the anti-abortion/pro-life issue, this is something I learned today. Perhaps you can learn something too.

It's disheartening to see the "Pro-life" response to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death. It's very clear that the folks who think RBG was a vehement "baby killer" have never heard of the name Susan Struck.

In the 1960s & 1970s, before Roe vs Wade, abortion was not only legal on US military bases, it was actively ENCOURAGED and basically mandated. Yes, really.

Captain Susan Struck was a combat nurse in Vietnam. When she got pregnant in 1970, the Air Force starkly gave her two choices. Get an abortion or be discharged. Struck wanted to keep her baby. So she was kicked out of the service.

When she got back to the US, Struck sued the US Government for putting women in such a horrible position that they had to choose between either not being able to serve their country or getting an abortion that they didn't want.

Do you know which ACLU lawyer took her case and got the military to change their policy?

Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Ginsburg approached this case with the same tenacity she would later use to help Congress draft the Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978. In the dark days after Roe in 1973, it was perfectly legal for employers in many states to put women in the same situation that Struck was put in--"deal with your pregnancy" or suffer the consequences of a lost job, responsibilities or pay.

Ginsburg fought for the rights of women to choose life. She also fought for the rights of women to be able to work without discrimination, purchase homes, have bank accounts and a myriad of other things that make it easier for women in desperate situations to choose life in the first place.

Life is never as black & white or simple as it looks through a myopic lens. It's never either/or. There's always "ands” and "buts" to everything.

So before you paint Ginsburg as some satanic villain, at least acknowledge the many abortions that likely DIDN'T happen because of her tireless advocacy for women and families.
#RBG

Copied and pasted with pleasure. Thank you for sharing, Janice Cimbalo & Micki Berger Sarab!

I fact-checked Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Susan Struck, and this information is true.

[Blue Owl]

1. K&R

[uriel1972]

2. pro-choice means pro-choice not "baby-killer"

[samplegirl]

3. Exactly!

[Lady_Chat]

4. Thank you so much for posting this!

[DFW]

5. There is no such thing as "pro-life."

Unless one is referring to a suicide prevention center, the very term "pro-life", just like the Republicanese definition of "conservative," is meaningless.

The only people who have a legitimate claim to the term "pro-Life" are those who worked on the advertising team that made a certain cereal famous:

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No one who eats meat or is for the death penalty has any claim to the term "pro-life."

And pro-choice means one thing and one thing only: the woman who is pregnant makes her own choice. You don't get to make that choice for her any more than you get to choose whom she marries or even whether she marries.

[LittleGirl]

6. Some of the comments I've read about RBG

is that she advocated for abortion and they were happy she was gone! Expressed like they thought she was actually doing the abortions.
It's gross what they say.

[OnDoutside]

7. Worth a listen to the latest New Abnormal where Molly interviews Sister Simone Campbell.

It’s Time to Thank Donald Trump for His Dictator Routine
1 day ago · 48 minutes
Most of us were horrified when Donald Trump hinted that he might not be willing to give up power. Rick Wilson was kind of appreciative. Trump has long flirted with the dictator thing. Now the mask is off. “I think the correct response to this is defiance,” Rick counsels on the latest episode of The New Abnormal. “‘Thanks for being honest about it. And also fuck you, we're coming to vote you out of office and humiliate you.’” And while the Trumpkins are doing everything they can to undercut every ballot they don’t like, all of that election interference doesn’t matter if it’s a landslide. “If there is a massive voter turnout on November 3rd, these are still only marginal,” Rick says. Molly Jong-Fast puts it more urgently when she adds, “The only way our democracy is going to survive is if every Democrat goes out there and fucking votes.” Then! Molly talks to Danielle Moodie Mills about the appalling results in the Breonna Taylor case. (“How much does this country expect Black people to swallow? You want to be able to kill us with impunity.,,. And then you expect us, what? To wait for justice that we know is not going to come?”)

And Sister Simone Campbell tells Molly who she thinks is the better Catholic in the presidential race. (“What we find is, Vice President Biden is totally in line with Pope Francis, caring for the unborn and caring for the born.)

Plus! A dispatch from Qongress! A love letter to Mitch McConnell! (J/K) Pig farmers run wild! What to bring to Election Day! Who’s in Marco Rubio’s ratfuck brigade! And is there enough mayonnaise in the universe to turn Comrade Ron Johnson’s chicken shit into chicken salad?

From the 31:10 mark https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-new-abnormal-with-molly-jongfast-rick-wilson/e/78013754?autoplay=true

[samplegirl]

8. Thank you

will listen today.

[niyad]

9. KNR

[Baltimike]

10. From Mary Cahalane

Can't believe this needs to be said AGAIN in 2020.

"Pro-life" is a partisan term. It is also often a duplicitous one.

Media: the term you want is anti-abortion. Please stop tilting the deck.

[TruckFump]

12. More like forced birther. EOM

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

11. i once didnt get a job i should have been a shoe in for-

at a hospital lab where my mom worked for 40 yrs, and was much loved.
i was in college, a pre-med. almost done w that 2 yr degree. the head of the lab noticed my engagement ring, and asked me about birth control. i didnt know then that i was already pg.
i didnt even get a no. just didnt hear.

[Sogo]

13. RGB: A giant of women's rights.

[Yavin4]

14. Facts and accurate information goes right over their heads.

These are not reasonable, logical people.