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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***Must read: Senate/House Democrats basically have power to delay ACB nomination indefinitely***
If we support them, they can be brave and try this. Not exaggerating here so dont you dare accuse me of such. I have loved studying parliamentary tactics all my life.
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/24/memo-laying-out-delay-tactics-circulates-among-senate-democrats/
This is just but one of our tactics:
Utilizing Rule XIV Any Senator can have any legislative measure placed on the calendar in two legislative days under Rule XIV. Leader Schumer could ask every Democratic Senator to introduce bills on their favorite subjects en masse and seek to put them on the calendar via rule XIV. Once they were on the calendar two legislative days later, if Schumer could get the floor, he could move to proceed to each in turn, file cloture, withdraw his motion to proceed, move to another, file cloture, withdraw his motion to proceed, and continue to repeat, stacking up an almost endless series of votes on motions to invoke cloture on motions to proceed to Democratic priorities, until the Majority Leader shut the Senate down.
W_HAMILTON
(7,867 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Explain why the fucking tactics fucking outlined here wont fucking work.
W_HAMILTON
(7,867 posts)I trust Schumer and the other Senate Democrats have a much better grasp of what is and what isn't within their power to do than anyone from The Intercept.
I figure this is article was just written to be referred back to later on by the useful idiots at The Intercept when they use it to write more anti-Democratic articles and say that the Democrats didn't fight hard enough or whatever bullshit you can expect for them.
You know what could prevented this? The shitty writers at the shitty Intercept from needlessly shitting on the 2016 Democratic candidate for president and thus providing cover for Trump.
Fuck them, they can sit down and shut the hell up.
triron
(22,003 posts)Or remove your posts. A request.
W_HAMILTON
(7,867 posts)...and anti-Democratic Party stories.
If you need specific instances, a good one to start with is how a whistleblower went to them to show proof that the U.S. government had proof that Russia interfered in our 2016 elections and now that whistleblower is in jail because they outed her to the Trump administration.
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)They throw out some ludicrous scenario that cant be done in a practical sense.
Then they turn around and flog the weak Democrats narrative.
Its classic Greenwald-Putin
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Motions to Adjourn and Recess Any Senator can move to adjourn, to adjourn to a day certain, or to take a recess. All of these motions take precedence over a motion to proceed to the consideration of a nomination. Senators could make a series of motions of this sort to force roll-call votes.
We should just roll over and let the court be stacked win religious extremists then?!
brooklynite
(94,572 posts)Im sure a foolproof strategy like this hasnt occurred to him.....
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)N/T.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Wrote the damn memo! Youre calling them ludicrous?
Indykatie
(3,696 posts)Biden, Schumer and Pelosi are no dummies. If there's a credible way to delay ACB's vote they will know what it is. Do we really think the folks over at the Intercept are aware of some tactic that no one else has hit on?
OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)Amishman
(5,557 posts)That article is at best misleading
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Motions to Adjourn and Recess Any Senator can move to adjourn, to adjourn to a day certain, or to take a recess. All of these motions take precedence over a motion to proceed to the consideration of a nomination. Senators could make a series of motions of this sort to force roll-call votes.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)Dilatory motions and amendments are out of order. Whether a motion or amendment triggers this violation is determined by the presiding officer after a point of order is made (Riddicks p. 311). The following have been found to be dilatory post-cloture:The presiding officer may, on his or her own initiative, rule out of order certain offending motions or amendments.
As soon as we do it a few times, they can state that the motion is intended to delay, and move onward ignoring it as out of order.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Before Moscow Mitch has a chance to file for cloture or even call the nomination to the floor? Also, theoretically, couldnt we tie the presiding officer up in knots having to rule countless of our actions out of order? Then if we appeal the ruling of the chair, that eats up time also.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)On the general premise that this would be easier and more effective than the traditional spoken filibusters. Yet we haven't seen these tactics used successfully ever. I'm inferring that either their are procedural options or rules in place to squelch these tactics, I just can't find them right now. Alternatively they could just change the rules.
Or the chair simply refuses to recognize the senator who is attempting the delay.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Maybe we could refuse to vote and keep the senate in a permanent roll call?
MOMFUDSKI
(5,541 posts)was why the rethugs wouldn't just hold the vote and to hell with the hearings.
Walleye
(31,024 posts)Yavin4
(35,439 posts)There's next to nothing that Dems can do. This is just setting up the "Dems are weak" narrative.