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JI7

(89,260 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:07 AM Sep 2020

Trump being a Business Failure is more likely to take away Support than not paying Taxes

The issues are somewhat connected because he didn't pay taxes because he didn't make money because he is a failure at business. But the focus on him being a failure at business is the biggest thing. This guy in below video talks about this. He focuses on Trump's base and while I think most will stay with him because he is a racist the issue of him being a business failure is more likely to lose him support than the issue of not paying taxes. So it's about where to focus our attention when we go after him. This guy also makes the point that Trump failed in business during times where the economy was doing well. It's not like he was doing well and then things went bad because of a recession .

I think more important than pointing out the unfairness of the tax issue during the debate is getting across how much of a loser and sucker Trump is when it comes to running a business. And we see his failure on dealing with Covid .



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Trump being a Business Failure is more likely to take away Support than not paying Taxes (Original Post) JI7 Sep 2020 OP
Agree. nt. andym Sep 2020 #1
I don't think any of this will take votes away from Trump. RandySF Sep 2020 #2
Agree, Not his base but maybe those who supported him because they easily fall for scams JI7 Sep 2020 #3
The "Trump try-ers" are the ones DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #9
I think trumps been skimming profits all along , and inflating losses duforsure Sep 2020 #4
It shows why he doesn't always pay his contractors mdbl Sep 2020 #6
Whatever works BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #5
He's a Kardashian. The only thing he's succeeded at in decades is being a celebrity. n/t thesquanderer Sep 2020 #7
There was an analysis done a while ago Jarqui Sep 2020 #8

RandySF

(59,079 posts)
2. I don't think any of this will take votes away from Trump.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:17 AM
Sep 2020

He's already at his bedrock of support. It coud, however, prevent squishy voters from pulling his lever.

JI7

(89,260 posts)
3. Agree, Not his base but maybe those who supported him because they easily fall for scams
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:24 AM
Sep 2020

Like thinking he was a good business person so therefore he was going to make the country and everyone wealthy.

The people that fall for get rich quick schemes. Paying thousands of dollars to attend some bs seminar .

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
9. The "Trump try-ers" are the ones
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 08:55 AM
Sep 2020

These are the people who voted for Trump mainly because they bought into his reputation as a savvy businessman who knew how to get things done based mostly on "The Apprentice". They figured "well, how bad can he be? Maybe it's time for a successful non-politician to make govt work". The NYT article shows just how bad at business Trump is/was. It shatters the whole illusion.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
4. I think trumps been skimming profits all along , and inflating losses
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:23 AM
Sep 2020

Using it to get off without being taxed. He's not a businessman at all but a con man who gets loans to float his image as a successful one who never pays his loans off. Money launderer , payoffs for policies , and shaking down countries , contractors, and skimming from government deals will be exposed and indictments will be in his and his families future, and eventually few will claim they supported trump , just like it was for W bush after he screwed us over. trump and republicans are criminals protecting criminals , and corruption will drive people away from them all.

Jarqui

(10,128 posts)
8. There was an analysis done a while ago
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 08:40 AM
Sep 2020

That if Trump had just put the money his Daddy gave him (and the proceeds of defrauding his niece from her share of his father's estate) into a savings account, he'd be considerably more wealthy than he is today.

I think a lot of folks could relate to that - more than some of the complex wheeling and dealing we're hearing about.

It underscores how poor of a business man he's been and how fraudulent his claim of being worth $10 billion was. Add in paying almost no taxes while treating himself to $70,000 in hair expenses in a year. That is not going to drum up support in the days leading up to the election.

I'll bet the 'failing New York Times' is doing a lot better than Trump these days.

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