Jake Tapper: "You know what? I'm not Chris Wallace. Thank you, Tim!"

[Nevilledog]

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Tweet text: Oliver Darcy
@oliverdarcy
After Trump spox @TimMurtaugh kept talking over him, @jaketapper boots him off his program, saying, "You know what? I'm not Chris Wallace. Thank you, Tim!"

[lame54]

1. Wallace's

Name is becoming a verb

[NoMoreRepugs]

2. Why do asshat RePutinicans think talking over someone

is the answer to everything?

[Claustrum]

3. Because they can't let truth be told

Once people hear the truth/facts, their story falls apart. So they make it as confusing as possible for anyone to understand. Plus, some people will think "both sides are bad" while it's mainly one side doing the talking over.

[TwilightZone]

4. It's a common debate tactic.

And they know that it works on a lot of people. Trump supporters love that stuff.

[unblock]

5. I must have missed that lesson in debate class.

But yeah. I know what you mean.

That said, it's actually an anti-debate strategy.

The point is to try to turn it into an argument without a meaningful exchange of ideas and fact, so they can win it with volume and quantity of words and generally preventing the other side from making their case.

[grumpyduck]

6. Thank you, I didn't know that.

[TwilightZone]

7. It's more than that.

It's "Gish Gallop". Trump is just taking it to its illogical limits.

https://speakingofresearch.com/2012/09/11/gish-gallop/

https://qz.com/905252/donald-trumps-lies-are-all-part-of-a-debate-tactic-called-the-gish-gallop/

[Caliman73]

8. Because to some people, it is an answer.

There was at least one study in social psychology that revealed that to a certain, and not unsubstantial segment of the population, that being wrong and confident, was more appealing that being correct, and being polite.

Something that is seen in the debate between a religious view of explaining phenomena and a scientific explanation, is that religious people are wrong on the facts but completely convinced that they are correct and thus speak confidently, while the very nature of science precludes 100% certainty. There is a lot of nuance and "we don't know for sure right now but confidence and consensus is building" Some people like "wrong and strong" more than right buy not 100% certain.

Conservatives/Republicans are not trying to win over the majority. The leaders are actually smart enough to understand that they cannot. Their policies are bad for the majority of people. To Republicans/Conservatives, it is about keeping their base activated and suppressing or depressing turnout for the majority of the people. They have carved out districts where to win, Democrats have to win by double digits. In national races like Senate and President, they work toward keeping just enough of the Democratic and Independent vote down, to win the EC and Statewide contests.

[yardwork]

12. Only men are admired for being confident, wrong or not.

To many Americans, women aren't allowed to be confident.

[flibbitygiblets]

15. or ambitious

[yardwork]

18. Right! And don't ever, ever, ever be right.

[flibbitygiblets]

19. But that's all I know how to be

[yardwork]

23. ...

[bdamomma]

29. they don't

like smart women. Too bad they are in for awakening.

[Caliman73]

20. No argument here.

Liberal men are held to a different standard than conservative men, but you are 100% on the fact that women standing their ground, even in appropriate ways, is often seen as a negative.

One of the reasons Hillary Clinton did not "resonate" with White Men in particular and Men in general, was that she was assertive, and was very competent and capable of defending herself and articulating her goals and needs. She was seen as shrill, and emasculating, etc... which is often the response to women who speak out. Add to that being a woman of color, and you have the perfect storm of Sexism and racism to make the picture complete.

[yardwork]

24. Women, too, hold these biases against other women.

[Caliman73]

25. Yep. Same way that POC buy into the negative stereotypes about themselves.

You have a lot of Black people and Latinos who buy into the bigoted ideas about Black and Latino people too. It is difficult not to when media, culture, and society are saturated with those narratives.

[LiberalLovinLug]

38. still appalled that over 50% of white women voted for Trump

even after the Hollywood Access bus tape.

[Ferrets are Cool]

28. Faux news learned it long ago...in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they

invented it.

[LiberalLovinLug]

39. Except of course in Faux's case, it is the host that talks over the guest.

[FakeNoose]

9. Some listeners are easily fooled

They think whoever talks the fastest, the angriest, and the loudest - must be right.

It's stupid, I know, but that's what Chump and his staffers count on. Fooling enough of the people, enough of the time. Other than that, they don't care.

[Caliman73]

22. Like a freakin Bugs Bunny/Yosemite Sam Cartoon

[Midnightwalk]

10. I'm not Chris Wallace

I hope that catches on. I hope someone comes knocking on my door. I’m not Chris Wallace....slam.

[underpants]

11. Is this where Murtaugh said that Biden got pummeled and the Dems are moving goalposts?

I just saw that on CNN.

[crickets]

13. Love it! I really want this to become a thing that happens more often.

When media has a guest jerk who refuses to allow for discourse and just machine guns their talking points that rudely, cut 'em off with, "I'm not Chris Wallace. Thank you, buhbye!" and go on to something else. It would be a great way to put a stop to the gish gallop, or at least stop tolerating it.

[Mr.Bill]

14. Think about it. If Joe Biden really did have dementia

and "couldn't even put a sentence together" why didn't Trump just shut up and let him talk?

[uriel1972]

16. still would make more sense than Trump

[flibbitygiblets]

17. I think that actually was the strategy, to make Biden seem confused and throw him off message

Trump isn't smart enough to debate on facts, so he just turned up the gaslighting to 11.

It didn't work.

[Caliman73]

26. Trump knows it isn't true.

It is just a weapon, with which to attack your opponent. If Biden was a young 50 year old in excellent health and of completely sound mind (like Joe Biden is of sound mind), there would be some other lie that Trump would make up to tar that him with. The reason it was so effective with Hillary Clinton, is that the right wing had been making shit up about her for more than 30 years. Plus the sexism that is inherent in our society. Biden has been mostly a benign entity in politics. Everyone likes Joe, even if they disagree with him. Trump has not real legitimate avenue of attack on Biden.

He's demented?
He's a puppet of the Radical Left?
He's corrupt?

I mean, who is this idiot talking about. To be sure, there are legitimate criticisms of Joe Biden, but the three above are simply ridiculous.

[Mr.Bill]

30. Exactly.

That's why he had to make up the drug test bullshit. Like there's a drug that makes Dementia go away for awhile. That would be the drug discovery of the century.

[greenjar_01]

21. Also, trying to slam Biden for having been in the Senate and worked with

racist Senators is pretty weak sauce.

If that's the best they have, they're flailing. I mean, who are they slamming? Byrd? Trent Lott? Jesse Helms? Strom Thurmond? Good God! It's like Golden Oldies night at the Trump Assisted Living Facility.

[George II]

27. I wish more commentators would do that. Brianna Keilar did it a few days ago, Anderson Cooper....

....has done it on occasion, and Don Lemon actually walked off the set.

They're few and far between, but this is the second time for people from CNN this week. Great!

[ProudProgressiveNow]

31. KR NT

[AlexSFCA]

33. Wallace is beyond incompetent

but he is the best fox has to offer. He is still worse than any journalist from any other major news network.

[Hassler]

34. They should run every one of Chump's flunkies. And run Chump too.

[Cha]

35. LOL.. it's a Thing.. "I'm not Chris Wallace.. you

can shut up now, Tim"!

[Cha]

36. Rt!

[Tommymac]

37. I knew Tim briefly as a young man...he was a shady opportunist then too.

Arrogant, ambitious, morally ambiguous, and perhaps he perceived himself as a sort of celebrity because of his grandfather. Always out for #1.

He's a liar just like his boss.