Devatating Swing State Polls For Romney ($) FL -0 53% - 44% OH - O 53%- R 43% PA 0 54%- R 42%

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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[Botany]

1. I loves me some polling porn

http://ia600200.us.archive.org/15/items/csr049/csr049_wcwc_13-thybbuk_silk-and-sweat.mp3

[Arugula Latte]

32. "Ooh, baby, show me your internals..."

[M_M]

45. Sh-sh-show me the n-numbers SLOWLY!

[BumRushDaShow]

2. K&R

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Puke Polling Firms Are Trying To Show A Tighter Race

But the best they can do now is manufacture a smaller Obama lead.

[BlueStreak]

11. If you think the campaign insiders have been testy lately, look for all out warfare now

Those rate are all political animals. Nobody wants to have responsibility for a huge blowout in an election the GOP should have won easily. Down the stretch, they are all going to be spending 80% of their time covering their asses and 20% of their time helping Romney.

[MADem]

20. You should see the dispicable, nasty shit they are trying to fling at Elizabeth Warren.

They just don't understand that you never fling shit from the high road, and you can't fling it from the low road--it just falls back on you!

[BlueStreak]

28. Scott Brown has lost his mind. He was in a close race.

I get so sick of these MSM caricatures of candidates like Brown and Ryan. Ryan was the brilliant, thoughtful athletic, honest broker. Did we mention how good looking he is? All of that was bullshit, except for the handsome part.

The MSM paints Brown as a fantastic campaigner with loads of charisma and really smart about how to appeal to voters in a mostly Democratic state. Then he does this? The one thing he had going for himself was that he seemed genuinely likable. I don't see how this tactic works for him. You take your number one asset and throw it away? Doesn't seem like a smart politician to me.

[mwooldri]

29. Ryan? Handsome?

I say that part can be debated too!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. Scott Brown Is A Very Nice Looking Man, Paul Ryan Not So Much

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[BlueStreak]

39. I was trying to find something nice to say.

[MADem]

30. He fucked up when he started sneering at her and calling her "Professor" in a condescending way

during the debates. It became apparent that he had a nasty side to him and it was quite revealing to see.

He's got nuthin' but a record that shows him to be a guy who can be relied upon to go with the GOP when it matters to them, and who is "allowed" to vote in a pandering way when it won't matter at all. He's also been shown to be a liar, so that "open and honest" persona is pretty much trashed.

[Tarheel_Dem]

43. I think MA is probably going to give Brown the Lazio treatment. Remember his sneering ass? Hillary

has him to thank for being the jerk he really is, and I think Elizabeth will look back on this episode and realize that Scott Brown may have just handed her a seat in the US Senate.

[MADem]

48. It's backfiring on him for this news cycle, anyway.

I'm sure he wishes he could rewind this whole mess...!

[Tarheel_Dem]

52. "It's backfiring on him for this news cycle, anyway." I'm glad to hear it. I mean, when you've....

got Native Americans calling on you to apologize for racially insensitive behavior, shouldn't you just apologize, and leave EW's family alone?

[BlueStreak]

44. Maybe somebody from the Boston area can answer this

I know there can be a natural tendency for people with less education to have some animosity towards university "eggheads", and I assume that is what Brown is going for.

But I would have thought that Harvard has such a tradition that most people would be proud of that university. Does the average MA citizen think being a Harvard law school professor is a bad thing?

[MADem]

46. There's no special "loyalty" by the people of MA to Harvard--not unless someone from there does

something INCREDIBLY cool--then there will be a bit of Yee-hawing for a bit. By the same token, there's no perpetual animus, either.

Look, Harvard has educated Barack Obama, George Dumbya Bush, Teddy Kennedy, Mitt Romney, FDR, Benazir Bhutto, Salinas of Mexico, Uribe of Colombia, and Seaga of Jam-rock. They have a mixed record, for sure. They are what they are, and they are sometimes regarded as an entity that is of-but-apart, in a way. Harvard belongs to AMERICA as much as it belongs to Cambridge or Massachusetts.

Brown is trying to appeal to the beer-drinking, male moron vote. He's dog-whistling the people who are angry because they think that someone duskier than they "took their jerb." It's really an ugly thing they've done....Brown must be very desperate, indeed.

[MADem]

37. His campaign staff taunted Warren volunteers with Woo woo woo and tomahawk chops.

The chief of the Cherokee nation was not amused.

In a video posted on YouTube that was shot by a state Democratic Party staffer, members of Brown's staff are seen holding campaign signs near the Erie Pub. The main person in the video has been identified as Brad Garnett, a field coordinator for the Massachusetts GOP. He is seen making tomahawk chopping motions and making whooping sounds, presumably in reference to Elizabeth Warren's claims of Cherokee heritage. Jack Richard, Brown's Constituent Service Counsel is also seen making tomahawk chop motions.

Jerry McDermott, Brown's State Director and Jennifer Franks, Special Assistant to Senator Scott Brown were also shown in the video at the rally, NewsCenter 5's Janet Wu confirmed.

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[BlueStreak]

40. What does he think he is accomplishing with this racism?

I don't think most people think it is a horrible thing to have some native American blood in their ancestry, as millions of people do.

I just don't get where he thought there would be an advantage in coming across as a racist and a hater when up to that day he had based his campaign on being bipartisan and likable.

Politically it seems like a really bad move. You expect somebody like Guiliani to be snarly. It is quite a shock when that comes from Scott Brown. I don't see any upside to that and loads of downside.

If Warren remains graceful with a "Can we set the racist, personal attacks aside and get back to a discussion of the issues?", I think she wins this thing with a few points to spare.

It is really remarkable how quickly the GOP Senate chances seem to be imploding. They should easily have taken the Senate, given the number of seats the Dems had to defend.

And if the GOP misses this opportunity, that will be two elections is a row where the Senate chances were screwed by the teabaggers (this time in Indiana and Missouri.)

[MADem]

47. I think his staff went "rogue" and he's trying to jolly it all along.

His senior people were out there sticking their unmentionables in the grinder, and he can't afford to fire them because he is too stooo-pid to strategize for himself, so he's trying to brazen his way through this mess.

It is a "macaca moment" though--and Deval Patrick's comment about what they're saying in private if this is what they say in public is quite a cogent point.

[BlueStreak]

49. Well, Brown started this in the debate

The staff wasn't very "rogue", if at all. They were just mirroring what Brown had hammered on multiple times in the debate last week.

[MADem]

51. You're right--I don't know if the "woo woo" and tomahawk chop was planned at the higher staff levels

though--I actually hope they DID plan it, though--because it will show just how out-of-touch they are.

[ananda]

4. The worries are the House and Senate races.

This is where voter suppression will really mean something,
and it doesn't look good because of so many tossups.

[WCGreen]

6. What usually happens in this kind of situation is the voters on the losing

side will just not vote at all.

Plus one or minus one, it all works out for us either way....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. You Are Correct About The Bandwagon Fact

A winning team starts to attract a lot more followers. Intuitively it makes sense as folks like to be on the side of the winner. However I had no problem voting for a string of Democratic losers in the 80s.

[MADem]

23. Well, that's because, like me, you have been a "Democrat Since Birth."

I'll vote for an iguana with a D next to his name before I'll vote for a Republican. If I ever thought of wavering, Tricky Dick Nixon cured me of that.

[PCIntern]

41. U said it! Nt

[BlueStreak]

13. That can cut both ways.

If it seems like an easy victory, the winning side my not bring the numbers either.

I really wish Obama would be more clear:

"We have to move beyond this gridlock. I have tried everything humanly possible to work across the aisle with Republicans. While we expect disagreements in politics, the American people expect leaders to come together with solutions that all can support. In far too many cases that has been impossible with the current make-up of the Republican Party. If they cannot come together in a spirit of compromise and progress, then you must give me a Congress i CAN work with. It is not enough to vote for me. You have to send a message to Congress too."

He can make this pitch down the stretch. I hope he does. It is actually a strong message for Obama. It puts the listener in the frame of mind that the Presidential outcome is not in question and the real decision is what to do about Congress.

[musiclawyer]

35. I have been making this same cry for months.

The surrogates and some media might articulate it. But is MUST come form POTUS ............ " Give me a democratic house so I have something to work with and we don't have another four years of gridlock".

If his advisirs are telling him not to do this they are fools of the highest magnitude.

[Tippy]

38. I am thinking the Tea Party shot themselves in the foot blocking

all those bills....Not all Republicans are stupid...dumb maybe but not stupid...voters are pissed off, their idea of hamstrining the President, has backfired..Many Republicans are hurting just as much we are...many of them need jobs too, many of them have lost their homes...I don't think they are to happy with the party leaders....along with the Tea Party...they have caused a world of hurt in America...many have finally figured out they were sold a bill of goods....many of them are without the means to take care of their families...Instead of thinking Republicans will make them rich , now they wonder where their next meal is comming from.

[BlueStreak]

42. Nobody thinks the House can come back to the Dems this time

and it is very unlikely to swing Dem in the 2014 mid-term. This is the shot that Obama has to get something done. I don't understand why he isn't being a lot more aggressive about it.

Unless, as a politician, he calculates that his own personal legacy and fortune is actually better served by gridlock. That gives him someone to blame. This isn't the way it should be. We should be trying to win the House.

[BootinUp]

5. Thanks for posting these DSB

Awesome!

[Major Nikon]

7. Too bad corporations can't vote, eh Willard

[INdemo]

10. shhhhsh..dont say that too loud

we still have a right wing Supreme Court

[Major Nikon]

12. No worries

The voter ID laws will save us.

[BlueStreak]

17. They can -- at least they can spend hundreds of millions to buy votes

While the money has had some effect, Rove and company have completely misunderstood three important factors:

1) Saturation effect. There comes a time where people get so sick of your ads that they want to do the opposite of what you are telling them.

2) This ain't Bonanza and Lucy anymore. These guys grew up in a world where there were 3 networks and that was pretty much all the average person did for entertainment most nights. Today's eyeballs and earballs are spread thin. We have 300 cable channels, iPods, XM radio, DVDs, video games -- lots of different diversions. Not many people sit down as a family and watch Lucy and Ricky trade clever barbs for a half hour.

3) Internet. We know as well as anybody just how important a change has happened with sites like DU and Facebook. Fundamentally this turns the traditional political advertising model upside down. In many cases, individuals are driving the messaging. A viral video reaches far more people than any traditional ad -- and it reaches people by way of a personal recommendation, so people pay far more attention to it.

When people go back and look at this campaign, they will start to understand these things. This is why the Koch billions haven't produced the expected results. Karl Rove has based his empire on dirty tricks and vast amounts of advertising money. I'm sure he'll always be in demand for his dirty tricks, but I bet it will be increasingly difficult to raise this kind of money in the future.

[northoftheborder]

9. Manufactured Disaster Capitalism

[George II]

14. Very misleading subject line.... the polls are for Obama...

I know what you're trying to say but the article you give the link to is much clearer:

"Obama opens substantial leads in key swing states"

[tridim]

15. Landslide!

And wads of new political capital!

This is gonna be good.

[Doctor Jack]

16. Take a look at intrade

Some movement this morning

Obama 74.5%

Romney 25%


Its nice to see the movement after months of 55% to 40%

[Loudestlib]

18. Ballots

Did you see that in Florida they are making the ballots 3 to 6 pages long. They are trying to confuse people.

[FailureToCommunicate]

19. And the slow down will make for even longer voting lines so people will just give up

[Loudestlib]

34. Yes!

[MADem]

26. Someone needs to get out their camera, and make a video that describes the ballot in

non-partisan fashion. Then they need to go around to each and every county/town/municipality with Public Access TV and get them to air the thing (they might have to have a "sponsor" in each town).

Take it from me, geezers LIKE local tv, and lots of local tv stations don't have a lot of content to play so they'll repeat stuff a lot. The trick, though, is to make the process NONPARTISAN--no narratives saying "If you wanted to vote for that idiot asshole Romney, you'd foolishly check this box!"

Of course, each municipality might make their own ballot, so there'd have to be several iterations of this--but it wouldn't be too hard to do, and it would be helpful in the big population centers.

[vaberella]

21. And another thread is running on the polls being statistically tied.

Sigh...great news.

[INdemo]

22. Watching Chuck Todd just long enough

this morning for him to project his electoral map..which he has all sorts of difficult scenarios for Rmoney..but he keeps it close by giving him Fla. NC RI Wisc bringing the race to a dead heat...One would think that he (and other right wing hacks like Joe Scar) is on the Kochs pay roll to report it as close..His Senate races were the same with the Rpuke gaining a majority in the Senate...Oh well let him babble on..To me my first thought was that he is just helping to energize the Democratic base with this BS and bring them to polls where they could be just a tad bit over confident..

[Orrex]

25. In his entire career, Chodd's truly insightful and accurate comments can be counted on one hand

[Orrex]

24. Because of my commute to/from work, I listen to NPR about 70 minutes per day

In the past two weeks I don't believe I've heard even a single story about Romney's dismal poll numbers.

In stark contrast, I hear excerpts of Romney's/Ryan's stump speeches at least two or three times daily.


Damn this Liberal Media!

[MADem]

27. NPR was co-opted fully by 2005. It's full of Liberty University-type nitwits now, working at all

levels. It will be impossible to shift them--the only hope is to change their hearts.

That wasn't an accident, either--that was deliberate, planned, and part of the GOP strategy. They'll be there until they retire or get fired for foolishness.

[mwooldri]

33. So easy to tell sadly.

BBC Newshour follows Morning Edition locally and the difference is clearly seen, especially when it's news about the USA. Discussions are not one-sided, and are easy to terminate without coming to the conclusion that the presenters have bias.

[MADem]

36. Yes, so many of us are disappointed. There's just no good radio anymore.

Unless, of course, you pay for it. Good thing I like salsa and samba music, because if I want to avoid the rightwing talk crap, that's about all I can get for free these days!

[Bad_Ronald]

50. Here's hoping the Romney ship continues taking on water & sinks to a place where even Robert Ballard

can't find it.