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538 now at 80 - 20 For Biden!!! Keep donating, GOTV!!! (Original Post) USALiberal Oct 2020 OP
...but the Telemundo Poll said... Stallion Oct 2020 #1
Pretend it's flipped JustAnotherGen Oct 2020 #2
You mean just give up in despair? lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #5
Where did you get that from? JustAnotherGen Oct 2020 #17
You said "Pretend it's flipped." lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #18
You don't seem to understand statistical analysis Blecht Oct 2020 #19
Sure, got it. You go with whatever motivates you. 4/5 odds of losing would discourage me. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #21
Yeah - that was kind of insulting JustAnotherGen Oct 2020 #28
Checking In - Bucks County PA needs help JustAnotherGen Oct 2020 #29
Yes, work as if it's flipped, Farmgirl1961 Oct 2020 #3
I updated my title! nt USALiberal Oct 2020 #10
It is certainly possible. The 80/20 is giving Trump a hedge due to time left in the race. Statistical Oct 2020 #13
Let's go JOE!!! NT Happy Hoosier Oct 2020 #4
As far as im concerned angrychair Oct 2020 #6
I updated my title! nt USALiberal Oct 2020 #11
Awesome angrychair Oct 2020 #26
If the polling remains constant, on election day... Chichiri Oct 2020 #7
Work like we're down by 20 in the polls. Renaissance Man Oct 2020 #8
This is great, stay focused for 4-1/2 more weeks Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #9
+1000! nt USALiberal Oct 2020 #20
GOTV for sure!! n/t archiemo Oct 2020 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2020 #14
80/20 in a fair election. This election will be anything but fair. Neema Oct 2020 #15
The results I expected in 2016 .. at least trump is sinking post 4 yrs lunasun Oct 2020 #16
That's the widest that it has ever been, exceeding the previous 79 - 21 set in late June. Klaralven Oct 2020 #22
I donated 25 even though I remain unemployed as does hubs...Go Joe. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #23
Thank you! nt USALiberal Oct 2020 #24
Real Clear Politics moved Iowa from Trump to Biden on the No Toss Up States Map. Now 359 to 179. Klaralven Oct 2020 #25
Iowa ?!! More good news ! lunasun Oct 2020 #27

JustAnotherGen

(31,869 posts)
2. Pretend it's flipped
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:24 AM
Oct 2020

And keep calling MI, WI, OH, PA, MN.

Keep up pressure on the 70K recently franchised in Florida.


It' ain't over until the election is certified!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. You mean just give up in despair?
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:29 AM
Oct 2020

That's how most people would behave in that situation.

Fortunately, most of us are too energized by the real results to act as if it's 20/80.

JustAnotherGen

(31,869 posts)
17. Where did you get that from?
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:29 AM
Oct 2020

I just told people - get active.

Do not take our feet off the gas.


I'm more than half way through a 3 year term on my local Democratic Committee.

We have the Borough Registered Voter Advantage, and are working with the Malinowski and Heller (Freeholder) campaigns on lit drops and cross pollination on our calling.

We flipped the Borough and the House Blue in 2018.


We are taking NOTHING for granted. Keep calling, texting, writing post cards.


My candidates win (Campaign Chair this year) - because I assume it is insurmountable and tell them to make one more call, and knock on one more door. We are in the final stretch. Trenton is allowing votes to be counted two weeks prior to election day.

Do the math.

In my mind - it's October 19 in NJ. We are two weeks ahead of everyone else.

My candidates each made 20 calls to their potential democratic party voters yesterday. They call for themselves, for Freeholder, for Malinowski, for Booker, and Joe.

Leave NOTHING to chance and get those freaking ballots in.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. You said "Pretend it's flipped."
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:31 AM
Oct 2020

For most people, that would mean "pretend it's completely hopeless."

I can't agree with that advice.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
19. You don't seem to understand statistical analysis
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:35 AM
Oct 2020

A 20% chance of winning means that if the election were held 5 times, Trump would win in one of them.

That is hardly hopeless for him, so reversing it would not be hopeless for Biden (us).

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. Sure, got it. You go with whatever motivates you. 4/5 odds of losing would discourage me.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 12:12 PM
Oct 2020

And thanks for the insult.

I'm not innumerate; I'm a life-long engineer and math/science geek.

JustAnotherGen

(31,869 posts)
28. Yeah - that was kind of insulting
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 07:23 AM
Oct 2020

That I agree with.

But as an elected PARTY official - it ain't over until it's over.

I would encourage you, if you have not already -

Get in touch with the Party Precinct leaders, Campaign Chairs, and local committee members.

We take this personally and do NOT want to fail you.

My approach will appear hopeless to you . . . unless you get on a zoom call with me, or sit distanced in my back yard and put your math skills to use.

This morning? I'm worried about any wafflers voting for Trump out of Sympathy that we worked VERY hard this summer to get them from undecided to Biden.

I think ten in my four blocks - only 8 have dropped their votes in the drop box. I need those other two votes.

Its down to this.

I can't fail you.

JustAnotherGen

(31,869 posts)
29. Checking In - Bucks County PA needs help
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 07:37 AM
Oct 2020

Touch base with those folks or let me know if you want me to connect you.

2008 I was on the ground and driving people to the polls - even though I lived in Somerset County NJ.

We are almost done in Hunterdon County, NJ. October 19th is our deadline since Trenton will allow the Clerks to start counting two weeks before the election. I'm pivoting to Bucks County on the 20th.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
13. It is certainly possible. The 80/20 is giving Trump a hedge due to time left in the race.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:54 AM
Oct 2020

538 Model says if the election was held today it would be 91/9. The 80/20 is based on likely improvements Trump can still make based on remaining time. As we get closer to the election if Trump doesn't close the gap he will drop further towards that 9%.

Encourage everyone to vote. Encourage everyone to vote as early as possible.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
6. As far as im concerned
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:30 AM
Oct 2020

Biden hasn't won until he is standing on the stage taking the oath of office in January.

Meaning we cannot take our foot off the gas until then

Meaning pay attention and call your state legislatures, especially republican legislatures, to make sure the certification process is done correctly.

Do not let up until January

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
7. If the polling remains constant, on election day...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:31 AM
Oct 2020

...it will be at 91 to 9.

I don't want that asshole to have even a 9% chance. GOTV like your life depends on it.

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
8. Work like we're down by 20 in the polls.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:33 AM
Oct 2020

I want this to be the biggest, most humiliating loss this asshole has ever experienced. I want Joe Biden to tell him, "Donald Trump, you're fired!" on November 3, 2020.

Oh, and GIVE to Democratic contenders like Amy McGrath and Jamie Harrison and boot Mitch the Turtle and Lindsey Graham out of office.

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
9. This is great, stay focused for 4-1/2 more weeks
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:39 AM
Oct 2020

Last edited Thu Oct 1, 2020, 12:05 PM - Edit history (2)

Trump, as he entered Tuesday night’s debate with roughly a 7- or 8-point deficit in national polls, which put him further behind at this stage of the race than any other candidate since Bob Dole in 1996.

And know that undecideds usually break for the challenger.

2020 is not 2016 for multitude of reasons, Trump is going down!

Response to USALiberal (Original post)

Neema

(1,151 posts)
15. 80/20 in a fair election. This election will be anything but fair.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:03 AM
Oct 2020

We have to OBLITERATE trump in order to get the win considering every dirty trick the GOP is pulling.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
16. The results I expected in 2016 .. at least trump is sinking post 4 yrs
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:10 AM
Oct 2020

Was it worth destruction of the US and spread of disease to elect a hater so they could
See hatred of POC In the WH
Turn away refugees n need
Try to knock down ACA just because Obama
Turn the US into xenophobia USA!
Push christofascism
Have favored states ?
A lot are rethinking a personnal loss perhaps due to his leadership
It maybe had to hit them personally or trump said something related to them like military service that pissed them off or people just laughing at trump all the time finally embarrassed them
whatever maybe the tax cuts to the rich .

Don’t care but at least they have left the trump train

If they did not wake up at least they are aggrieved by trump actions enough to not vote for him again

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