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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:42 AM Oct 2020

Powerful ad by @JewishDems pulled due to controversy.

I thought their ads were current & necessary words of warning, considering what we are dealing with today.
The warnings hold a similar danger with Trump.

I also understand the Hitler /Holocaust is a moment in history that should never be normalized.
Because it was specific.








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@Oren_Jacobson
Why do we teach our children what signs to watch for if we're going to ignore and/or deny those signs when they're staring us right in the face?

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Docreed2003

(16,869 posts)
4. "We will never forget" is meaningless unless we call them out for what they are
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:53 AM
Oct 2020

There is an extremely dangerous, xenophobic, anti-Semitic movement in the midst of Trumpism in America. This should be called out and I applaud this ad

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. I also believe the truth of that time in history is being somewhat lost with generations
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 12:05 PM
Oct 2020

..generations who were not born close to WW2.

I fear the impact on society is being lost through a simply lack of teaching within our educational systems.

See, I feel that NOT bringing the horror of the Holocaust to the forefront today, indeed risks normalizing facisim.

Does that make sense?

I want the issue & the ads shouted out loudly today.

 

Earthshine2

(4,044 posts)
9. This doesn't surprise me. There's a large right-wing component among orthodox Jews.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 02:32 PM
Oct 2020

For them, there is only one issue -- Israel.

They do not look at any bigger pictures, and care not one bit about Palestinians or other Arab people, or really any other people.

They are perfectly happy with Netanyahu.

I was born Jewish, and happily cast off all thoughts of religion as a child.

My nephew was born into a nonreligious household, and then became an orthodox Jew in his 20s. He's very much a part of that community.

I spoke to him last night. He's a liberal living among conservatives. He is quite unhappy now. He has to hide his political beliefs.

But, he's used to that. Two years ago he got into a conversation about the nature of things. He was chastised by his young peers for suggesting the universe is billions of years old, when in their reality, it is age is 6000 yrs.

I said to him, "Even the young ones believe that?" "Yup" "Why did you become religious?" "It's a better life for me."



Behind the Aegis

(53,979 posts)
10. That is a shame.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 02:48 PM
Oct 2020

I think it did a good job, much better than many, in drawing parallels and not claiming IT is Hitler or they are Nazis; and, that distinction is important. While I certainly understand the need not to diminish the Holocaust, I did not and do not see this ad as anything of the sort. The reason history repeats, or mirrors, is because people forget or downplay the past. One need not be hysterical, hair-on-fire, about what is happening, but if one is not alarmed at what is happening in our country, then they are sleeping, ignorant, stupid, or not paying attention, or a combination, therein. If this ad were trivializing or otherwise making blatant comparisons to the Holocaust, I would take issue, but calling attention to the rise of fascism, to the rise of Nazism (white supremacy), is not, in any way, minimizing or taking from the horrors of the Holocaust or playing on its memory. The idea of the ad is to make sure we DON'T get to the end result of what we saw in Nazi Germany.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
11. My husband and I are both Jewish.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 02:52 PM
Oct 2020

This is a very good ad. When we were young, we believed it could never happen here. Now we know it could.

Behind the Aegis

(53,979 posts)
12. Thought you'd enjoy this...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 08:46 PM
Oct 2020
Jewish Democrats drew outrage with their new ad — then Trump made their point in the debate

The Proud Boys, an extremist right-wing group, had some company in getting a boost from Donald Trump during his first presidential debate with Joe Biden on Tuesday night.

In a twist, it was a group of Jewish Democrats that got a lift from the president’s failure to call out white supremacists.

Just hours before the debate, the Jewish Democratic Council of America drew organizational Jewish outrage for an ad in which it likened the Trump administration to the rise of fascism in Germany in the 1930s. The Jewish Democrats’ group seized on the debate moment to turn the tables against their critics.

“In a baffling and unfortunate development, some of the major Jewish American organizations came out against our ad,” the council’s director, Halie Soifer, said in a Forward op-ed published after the debate. “So it was ironic to say the least when, just hours after the ad’s release, the President validated our message at the first presidential debate by refusing to condemn white supremacy — yet again.”

more...
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
13. Thank you! "then Trump made their point in the debate"..
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 08:53 PM
Oct 2020

He made it loud & clear & that ad is their answer back.

He's just an ugly human being ~

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