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Are MSNBC moving back to the right ? After months and months of reasonable guests, today (Original Post) OnDoutside Oct 2020 OP
Profit I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #1
Probably so, but someone has taken a decision somewhere OnDoutside Oct 2020 #3
Take that toits logical conclusion. If there is no profit motive would we have a press? Should the Dream Girl Oct 2020 #10
Public television I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #14
Agree public television is great. But should we not have privately owned broadcast media? newspaper? Dream Girl Oct 2020 #26
Well the government is divided I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #32
It is good to see them squirm sometimes. pwb Oct 2020 #2
MSNBC actually NEEDS trump re-elected to keep making money. Joe Biden, quietly and efficiently BamaRefugee Oct 2020 #4
Yep, having things working the way they should and people happy makes news people RKP5637 Oct 2020 #8
The horse-race... lame54 Oct 2020 #5
This Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #7
They will. They profit off a niche market, but if that market slows down ... RKP5637 Oct 2020 #16
Corporate news is all under the lash of the same master. Magoo48 Oct 2020 #6
Wasn't Frank Lutz on there too today? doc03 Oct 2020 #9
Yes but he revealed his focus group liked Biden ... LSparkle Oct 2020 #22
I just turn off what i don't want to see or hear. nt Boogiemack Oct 2020 #11
Wasn't Frank Lutz on there too today? I heard he was going to be on so I turned it doc03 Oct 2020 #12
He was very favorable toward Joe Biden lillypaddle Oct 2020 #21
I changed the channel when I saw Cortez... Rice4VP Oct 2020 #13
I should have. ooky Oct 2020 #33
It might be palatable to hear the endless semi-liberal commentary segments, but tandem5 Oct 2020 #15
Sensationalism I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #35
It ain't all tote bag and mug money 'though tandem5 Oct 2020 #43
Who would you consider an acceptable conservative voice? brooklynite Oct 2020 #17
I want to use inshallah in a sentence without BootinUp Oct 2020 #20
None of them. Especially now I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #34
Personally, I don't want to be in a bubble where everyone agrees with me. brooklynite Oct 2020 #37
I don't either I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #41
Anyone who isn't on in support of Trump. Even though I know David French is an anti abortionist, OnDoutside Oct 2020 #40
No they are trying to get some sound bites like CNN n/t Bev54 Oct 2020 #18
Well, Ayman Mohyeldin lillypaddle Oct 2020 #19
+100 I agree! That was an epic take down. I hope someone posts it here because I skylucy Oct 2020 #30
I just looked online lillypaddle Oct 2020 #45
Try this on youtube: moonscape Oct 2020 #48
Ayman gave him an Epic takedown! OP is half-baked BS. Pathwalker Oct 2020 #49
Thanks so much! nt lillypaddle Oct 2020 #50
I think many Trump Supporters were refusing to go on the shows JI7 Oct 2020 #23
They like the horse race theme and watch to get more repuke eyes kimbutgar Oct 2020 #24
To be fair... czarjak Oct 2020 #25
Yeah, Noah has a stick up his ass lillypaddle Oct 2020 #27
Noah Rothman is a paid MSNBC contributor and has been forever. octoberlib Oct 2020 #28
First time I've seen Rothman on MSNBC in months and months. Cortes is just an amoeba talking head, OnDoutside Oct 2020 #29
MSNBC doesn't exist in my personal universe. hunter Oct 2020 #31
Jesus, it's one fucking day. Calm down. Also, the network enabled trump in 2016, for F them. themaguffin Oct 2020 #36
I have MSNBC on in the background most days. It's more than a coincidence to see these two OnDoutside Oct 2020 #39
Mohaddin handed Steve Cortes his ass. madaboutharry Oct 2020 #38
That show is right-wing rockfordfile Oct 2020 #42
No. MSNBC is not moving right. emulatorloo Oct 2020 #44
It's the corporate media Yeehah Oct 2020 #46
yeah, that's why their primetime lineup is Reid, Hayes, Maddow, O'Donnel, Williams Takket Oct 2020 #47

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
1. Profit
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:17 PM
Oct 2020

Makes for evil in the news.

Take profiteering and private ownership out of the press. Then the owner cannot use it to push right-wing pro rich, agendas.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
10. Take that toits logical conclusion. If there is no profit motive would we have a press? Should the
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:24 PM
Oct 2020

state own the media?

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
14. Public television
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:26 PM
Oct 2020

Does good at reporting news,not shitloads of right wing talking points on there,wonder why. Plus they have great documentaries.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
26. Agree public television is great. But should we not have privately owned broadcast media? newspaper?
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:35 PM
Oct 2020

Should they not make a prifit based on circulation, subscriptions and advertising? Do we really want state owned media?

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
32. Well the government is divided
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:50 PM
Oct 2020

And does not have 1 agenda. There will always be 2 different agendas. Owners have right-wing agendas so they impose it on thier owned companies.

Public media and reinstalling the fairness act can change and remove propaganda .

Rich people have too much power in our country. Public access channels used to show all kinds of veiws.

The thing that's the problem is ownership and control by an owner with an agenda and because they want to keep food on the table the reporters are basically extorted to repeat what the boss wants.

And that is not a free press.

pwb

(11,287 posts)
2. It is good to see them squirm sometimes.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:19 PM
Oct 2020

This last month a fake close race will be built up by the Cable talkers. I tune out much of the t v closer to the election myself.

BamaRefugee

(3,487 posts)
4. MSNBC actually NEEDS trump re-elected to keep making money. Joe Biden, quietly and efficiently
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:20 PM
Oct 2020

FIXING EVERYTHING TRUMP BROKE is not going to bring many eyeballs to the screen.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
16. They will. They profit off a niche market, but if that market slows down ...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:26 PM
Oct 2020

They are P&L centers. Not the old time news that was a cost center only and just done for 15 minute evening news.

LSparkle

(11,660 posts)
22. Yes but he revealed his focus group liked Biden ...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:32 PM
Oct 2020

In the debate and said he has had personal experience with Biden’s decency and empathy.

Mohyeldin pushed back hard on Cortez — I didn’t think the segment made the RW look good at all.

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
21. He was very favorable toward Joe Biden
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:32 PM
Oct 2020

talking about him having had a stroke, and Joe leaving a line he was in to go over to him a give him a big hug. Said he felt like a weight had been lifted off his shoulders.

ooky

(8,928 posts)
33. I should have.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:53 PM
Oct 2020

I haven't seen Cortes on for a while so it kind of caught me off guard, of course he was speed lying like usual. Usually he and the other Trump professional speed liars start showing up on MSM about 30-45 days out from the election.

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
15. It might be palatable to hear the endless semi-liberal commentary segments, but
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:26 PM
Oct 2020

let's be clear that their first goal is to be sensational in order to attract viewership and they'll invite on whoever will advance that goal to the extent that it does not irreparably alter their brand.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
35. Sensationalism
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:55 PM
Oct 2020

Isn't an issue on PBS because they are not for profit. They don't have to compete for eyeballs.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
34. None of them. Especially now
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:53 PM
Oct 2020

They are mouthpieces for rich fascists.

Until the rich lose thier power and a big chunk of thier money nothing's gonna change for the better.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
41. I don't either
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 04:20 PM
Oct 2020

But traitors need to be called what they are
Their agenda needs to be exposed.

I think republicans are scum.

I don't think republicans with thier anti American agenda deserve the free press pass they've been given by the owned press run by rich republicans .

If they have republicans on there and they lie and do the shit they do they need to be called out on it.every time. Reporters need job security and whistleblower protections to do their jobs. And the owners of the news are allowed to push their agendas which is wrong.
By owning the livelihoods of reporters.

In this way it's okay those bastards go on there.

They need to be countered and learn to not talk over other people.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
40. Anyone who isn't on in support of Trump. Even though I know David French is an anti abortionist,
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 04:13 PM
Oct 2020

(and happy to see Barrett on the SC) he would be better than any Trump apologist.

I think rather than saying conservative, it is currently more accurate to say Trumper or Never Trumper until Jan 20 at least.

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
19. Well, Ayman Mohyeldin
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:30 PM
Oct 2020

just happened to tear Steve Cortes a new one, and it was a joy to watch, so I'm okay with it.

skylucy

(3,740 posts)
30. +100 I agree! That was an epic take down. I hope someone posts it here because I
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:43 PM
Oct 2020

would enjoy watching it again!

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
49. Ayman gave him an Epic takedown! OP is half-baked BS.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 06:25 PM
Oct 2020

He shut him down and kicked him off the show! It was beautiful.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
23. I think many Trump Supporters were refusing to go on the shows
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:33 PM
Oct 2020

that's why they weren't on but I guess with the elections they are desperate and trying to go everywhere to support Trump.

kimbutgar

(21,181 posts)
24. They like the horse race theme and watch to get more repuke eyes
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:34 PM
Oct 2020

But I’ve known forever msnbc daytime is ghastly and rarely do I watch it except if there is breaking news.

Starting with Ari up to Lawrence it’s watchable.

But what I don’t understand is if MF45 gets re elected they will be threatened and at danger for retaliation. So I don’t understand why they are kissing the fat orange ones ass.

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
27. Yeah, Noah has a stick up his ass
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:36 PM
Oct 2020

I don't like him either, but he isn't really all that bad. Do we want MSNBC to be another Fox News, but slanting to the left? I'm really kind of surprised at some of the responses here.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
28. Noah Rothman is a paid MSNBC contributor and has been forever.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:36 PM
Oct 2020

Ayman just kicked Cortes' ass all over tv and didn't let him get away with anything.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
29. First time I've seen Rothman on MSNBC in months and months. Cortes is just an amoeba talking head,
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:41 PM
Oct 2020

and shouldn't be let near a respectable channel. He's a Jeffrey Lord type paid hack.

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)
36. Jesus, it's one fucking day. Calm down. Also, the network enabled trump in 2016, for F them.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 03:58 PM
Oct 2020

Don't expect the media to do the right thing.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
39. I have MSNBC on in the background most days. It's more than a coincidence to see these two
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 04:06 PM
Oct 2020

assholes on the same day.

madaboutharry

(40,219 posts)
38. Mohaddin handed Steve Cortes his ass.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 04:05 PM
Oct 2020

Mohaddin destroyed him. It was a thing of beauty.

It is important to expose these lying bastards.

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