"I did not support Medicare for All; I do not support it now" -- Joe Biden today

[brooklynite]

...on his whistle stop train tour.

[Turin_C3PO]

1. I just hope

we can win the Senate and enact a second ACA to include a public option.

[Budi]

6. That is how we improve on everything that the GOP fought Obama against.

Republicans need to be left in a minority for a really long time.
They should have no more chances to muck up the good that our Democrats do for the people of this fine country.

Imagine the advances Biden could do for America & the world, if given a full Dem Senate & House.

November is when Repubs are told to sit down & be quiet.

[Doremus]

2. Not new. He's said so all along. nt

[demmiblue]

3. Yeah, I don't get the point of this post. n/t

[Indykatie]

12. I Read a Story This Week That Bernie Was Saying that Biden Does In Fact Support Med4All

Why Bernie would offer up that comment at this time makes no sense. He has to know that Med4All is not widely approved even among Democrats. He also knows Biden has been clear about not supporting it.

[George II]

35. Biden supports UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE, which is what 70% of Americans support....

Biden's intention is to strengthen and expand the ACA.

Unfortunately advocates of "Medicare for All" have rolled up all the various universal healthcare plans into one and have been calling them "Medicare for All", which is false and misleading.

As a matter of fact, only a fraction of that 70% of Americans really support "M4A".

[Budi]

4. Thank you Joe Biden. 💙🥂

I really like the improvements to ACA he has in the planning.

M4A pales in compare to it.
And after 4 yrs of hearing the words M4A, there still is no comprehensive nor affordable proposal.

Stick with the work & wisdom of Joe...💙

👍

[brush]

8. Medicare for All would not be my choice single-payer healtcare...

as it only pays 80% of medical bills. The rest is up to the patient or a separate supplemental plan that the patient has to pay for monthly.

We can do better than that. The important thing now however is to win the election and not get Dems riled up and divided over policies not yet in place.

[redstatebluegirl]

9. Having just gone on medicare in May I can tell you it isn't as good as the insurance I had

from my employer. I have a supplemental policy that costs me $124 a month, Medicare is $145. My insurance from my employer cost me $210 a month and was easier to work with. I forgot you need a Part D plan for drugs, mine is $33 a month.

I think young people really don't understand what medicare is, they think you pay nothing or next to nothing, not really.

[Caliman73]

22. You have to remember that Medicare was intentionally crippled by Republicans since its beginnings

They carved out exceptions and put in provisions that made it lesser than, on purpose. There is no reason why Medicare should not cover dental, vision, and medications on its own. England has the NHS and Canada has a comprehensive system. And yes, I know that neither

I pay an additional $11,000 per year to cover my 2 children and spouse on my insurance. I am covered by my employer. Plus I have to have separate Vision and Dental too.

The coverages can be adjusted in Medicare and things can be fixed, but we are fighting lobbies for private hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, and other providers who want to get paid.

I think that most people don't understand that Medicare was sabotaged from the beginning because there are groups out there that want to keep health care as a commodity and not something that all people have access to.

[moonscape]

15. ACA was always about baby steps wasn't it? It is

what could get through Congress and even then was razor thin. It became more popular as folks got used to it, and the idea was always to build on it.

ACA needs some reform, and adding a public option would be a strong next step. I see MFA in this harshly divided country as unrealistic. We have so much repair work to do that sucking the oxygen out of the room with that fight might be a mistaken priority.

The country is simply not as left as I am and for me, understanding that is (almost) as important as it is for Repubs to understand this is not the far right country they want either. This gives me patience, as long as we're moving in the right direction, and adding a public option is doing that imo.

[SlogginThroughIt]

36. Excuse me? If we win... We #%*ing win!

Come on what kind of nonsense is this?

[George II]

37. Are you saying that even if Biden wins, "we don't win"? Did you seriously say that?

[Wounded Bear]

7. He'll sign whatever Congress sends him regarding health care improvement...

[ProfessorGAC]

10. This Is A Thing?

First, he's said it before. Consistency is a good thing.
Second, he was among the architects of the ACA. Personal pride would compel one to improve & solidify an achievement that already worked for tens of millions. What would anybody expect him to say?

[pwb]

11. How about Medicare if you want it?

That sounds good to me. If you don't you don't .

[CTyankee]

30. And some don't. And they get sick or injured and who pays the bill?

It is totally selfish not to pay for your health care through our SS system. Don't like it? Well, then come up with a better alternative but in the meantime, pay for what you are getting under the present plans you can get.

[NutmegYankee]

13. Medicare really isn't that great.

We can do far better.

[Boogiemack]

17. Medicare is good. At least the kind we had BUT it ain't cheap and without a secondary or

supplemental it's a nightmare.

[NutmegYankee]

21. That's my point. We can create a primary single payer that is far better.

Or create markets like we have, but with better subsidies. Or even a single payer, but with multiple companies to choose from with premiums covered.

[ismnotwasm]

14. Good

It’s a shit idea without infrastructure to support it.

[chowder66]

16. Much of the ACA has been litigated in court so I think it's best to build on it. nt

[MoonlitKnight]

18. Just win baby

We can discuss this in February.

[mcar]

19. K

[BlueIdaho]

20. Step One

Elect Joe Biden, Step Two - elect a Democratic Senate, Step Three - build on our Democratic House.

Everything else can wait.

[SoonerPride]

23. Good.

[mzmolly]

24. He supports a public option.

Bernie's 2016 plan, essentially.

Shit we are having a hard time keeping the ACA.

[betsuni]

33. Not Bernie's plan. Hillary ran on a public option in 2008 and 2016, Obama

ran on a public option in 2008.

[mzmolly]

38. Bernie supported the idea in 2009. Sorry, I'm old. ;)

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/sanders-op-ed-a-strong-public-option-will-keep-insurance-companies-honest

[aikoaiko]

25. Win. Evolve.

[JI7]

26. He supports his own plans which includes ACA expansion

Those are things they have already done and more than a slogan.

[onetexan]

28. Thank you!

[Yavin4]

27. Over time, the Public Option will become Medicare for All.

Any plan where people can buy health insurance from the govt will become Medicare for All.

[roamer65]

29. He will change after he's elected.

We eventually will have a single payer system.

[CTyankee]

32. Yup. And everyone will love it, like they did Medicare and Obamacare.

[SMC22307]

31. Did he talk about lowering the age to 60 like he did before? Or better yet, 55? (n/t)

[Politicub]

34. I'm happy with my ACA plan. I was able to leave a job

that made me unhappy because I could purchase my own insurance through the exchange.

Actually, to be honest, I LOVE the ACA. And the public option will get us closer to universal coverage.

Biden is committed to making the ACA better and better. If the Supreme Court tampers with the ACA, and we have both houses and the presidency, then M4A will be the only solution.