Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
25 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
If Trump and Biden die of Covid, (Original Post) Pryderi Oct 2020 OP
That's insane. Not going to happen. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #1
One thing I learned in 2016... LuckyCharms Oct 2020 #13
Yes but 2020 is not 2016.20. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #15
Have you forgot about Pence? n/t Stargleamer Oct 2020 #2
We get stuck with Mother's husband for a few months and then whoever is Speaker of the House Snake Plissken Oct 2020 #3
No. The election would go on as scheduled. Pence would become President right Blue_true Oct 2020 #25
I presume the Veeps would still lead their tickets. NutmegYankee Oct 2020 #4
Are u a horror movie buff by chance? BootinUp Oct 2020 #5
Constitution Crisis? You don't actually vote for Biden/Trump you vote for electors ... Statistical Oct 2020 #6
The vote still happens and either Pence or Harris becomes President. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #7
Pence would become President immediately, if her ticket wins, Kamala Blue_true Oct 2020 #21
Shut. Up. Hekate Oct 2020 #8
Bernie had more delegates than Kamala or Pelosi. n/t Pryderi Oct 2020 #9
Sanders lost the Primary by a huge amount while running 5 years . JI7 Oct 2020 #14
WTF does that even mean? The Speaker of the House is next in line, period. Hekate Oct 2020 #18
Look, I've been a big-time Sanders supporter both this year and in 2016, but give it a rest... regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #24
We immediately split into 7 regional nation-states, based on a round-robin ro sham beaux nt coti Oct 2020 #10
How about you stop staying things like about Biden? LisaL Oct 2020 #11
He is hoping Sanders somehow ends up President JI7 Oct 2020 #16
Figures. LisaL Oct 2020 #23
It's a valid question, I'm afraid. ecstatic Oct 2020 #12
Well, that escalated quickly. Nevilledog Oct 2020 #17
Yeah, it makes you wonder why. Hekate Oct 2020 #19
No. The VP of whichever ticket wins becomes President on Jan 21, 2021 Blue_true Oct 2020 #20
Bernie still doesn't become president. SlogginThroughIt Oct 2020 #22

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
3. We get stuck with Mother's husband for a few months and then whoever is Speaker of the House
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:20 PM
Oct 2020

in the next Congress, until we have an election.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. No. The election would go on as scheduled. Pence would become President right
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 12:02 AM
Oct 2020

away, but if Biden’s ticket wins, Kamala would become President-elect and would take office on Jan 21, 2021. There would not be another primary season and no one would be substituted in, regardless of how many primary votes that person got.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
6. Constitution Crisis? You don't actually vote for Biden/Trump you vote for electors ...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:22 PM
Oct 2020

Technically you don't vote for Biden. You vote for electors who have pledged to vote for Biden. Those electors can vote differently so if Biden electors win and Biden dies before the electoral college convenes in Dec they could collectively cast votes for Harris (or anyone) as President. if that person whomever he/she is gets 270 EV they are President. If nobody gets 270 EV (maybe the electors on the winning side fragment) then it is up to the House to decide. If the House can't reach a vote where a single candidate gets 26 votes (1 per state) then Pelosi becomes President.

However this has never happened before so it almost certainly would go to the Supreme Court.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,898 posts)
7. The vote still happens and either Pence or Harris becomes President.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:35 PM
Oct 2020

As already noted, you don't ever vote directly for the candidates, only for the electors.

If that were to happen, at some point, before or after Nov 3, a new stand-in VP would be selected. Well, perhaps it wouldn't happen until after January 20, 2021.

It might be helpful to review what happened when Spiro Agnew resigned the Vice-Presidency October 10, 1973. It cleared the way for a moderate VP, Gerald Ford, which made the impeachment and resignation of Richard Nixon possible.

There is always a plan of succession.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. Pence would become President immediately, if her ticket wins, Kamala
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:57 PM
Oct 2020

would become President-elect and would need to vet and choose a VP.

Hekate

(90,816 posts)
18. WTF does that even mean? The Speaker of the House is next in line, period.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:49 PM
Oct 2020

What are you peddling?

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
24. Look, I've been a big-time Sanders supporter both this year and in 2016, but give it a rest...
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 12:02 AM
Oct 2020

No, if the nominees die before the election, the parties don't go back and award it to the next-highest vote-getter in the primaries.

And, sometimes, someone ascends to the presidency without winning a primary contest. For that matter, Gerald Ford became president without ever winning a nationwide election of any kind, only the one for his particular congressional district in Michigan.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
12. It's a valid question, I'm afraid.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:46 PM
Oct 2020

We're in the middle of an unchecked pandemic and both men are in their 70s.

IMHO, in that scenario, Beto should join the ticket with Kamala.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. No. The VP of whichever ticket wins becomes President on Jan 21, 2021
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:54 PM
Oct 2020

minimum. Until then, Pence would be President.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»If Trump and Biden die of...