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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:10 PM Sep 2012

We're Among Friends So We Can Be Honest

I know we are supposed to lower expectations for the debate but Romney is hardly a great debater. Beating clowns like Rick Santorum , Ron Paul, and Herman Cain doesn't mean you're a great debater. It just means you beat a bunch of clowns in a debate.

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We're Among Friends So We Can Be Honest (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 OP
My thoughts exactly! n/t arthritisR_US Sep 2012 #1
He Comes Off A Cold, Unfeeling, Pompous Ass DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #2
You nailed it! n/t arthritisR_US Sep 2012 #14
Romney's last hope... Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #3
Beating clowns doesn't mean you're a great debater Flashmann Sep 2012 #4
Romney is a masterdebater. Gregorian Sep 2012 #5
Well, Obama is a cunning linguist. JSK Sep 2012 #6
He's actually quite good. Nice speaking voice, also. spirit-soul Sep 2012 #7
Disagree about his voice - Sounds like a bad used car salesman. GoneOffShore Sep 2012 #8
I am sure your subjectivity does not play into this. spirit-soul Sep 2012 #9
WEll, here in the south a honey truck Tsiyu Sep 2012 #13
Damn, do think the troll read my response? GoneOffShore Sep 2012 #18
Oh, I'm sure that they did Tsiyu Sep 2012 #19
I'm a casting director - I'd only call him for smarmy roles. GoneOffShore Sep 2012 #17
Chances are, my vote will be in before the debates, anyway. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #10
it would be wrong i think barbtries Sep 2012 #11
It will all be up to how the Moderators handle it BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #12
Actually, they beat him..into moving so far right he's unelectable. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2012 #15
I think so too. It's too late to try to appear moderate livetohike Sep 2012 #16
After each Republican debate, a new 'frontrunner' emerged. So clearly Mitt did not Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #20
Huntsman and Gingrich were both better debaters The Second Stone Sep 2012 #21
Romney will laugh at inappropriate times frogmarch Sep 2012 #22

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
3. Romney's last hope...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:18 PM
Sep 2012

is to destroy the POTUS in the debates. To reduce Obama to a stuttering, quivering mass.

We all know (and I think Mitt knows) that's not going to happen. And having seen Mittens in the "debates" during the primaries and having seen Obama v. McCain, my money is that it's going to happen the other way around. Mitt is going to get flustered, and then offended by the audacious black man standing between him and his just reward.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
4. Beating clowns doesn't mean you're a great debater
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:25 PM
Sep 2012

Puts me in mind of a saying my Grandpa used,a lot.....Cream floats to the top,but so does a turd..In this case we are absolutely talking about a turd...Two if one includes Lyan Ryan...I look for both to be utterly humiliated in their respective upcoming debates..I also look for both to be oblivious to that reality,after the fact....Turds....

 

spirit-soul

(22 posts)
7. He's actually quite good. Nice speaking voice, also.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:37 PM
Sep 2012

He came out surprisingly strong against Newt, who is a good schmooze artist himself.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
13. WEll, here in the south a honey truck
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:47 PM
Sep 2012

is one that carries the contents of porta-potties.

So in this regard, you would be correct.

Enjoy your visit



Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
19. Oh, I'm sure that they did
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:27 PM
Sep 2012


You know their ego is such that they're checking out the responses.

But you just gotta wonder why they're wasting their time here when Stench is tanking so miserably.






GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
17. I'm a casting director - I'd only call him for smarmy roles.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sep 2012

Anything requiring sincerity calls for a homey voice, a la the "Country Tyme Lemonade" guy.

barbtries

(28,810 posts)
11. it would be wrong i think
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:44 PM
Sep 2012

to underestimate just how low the media will set the bar for romney. i hope i'm wrong about that. but seriously if he gets through it without yakking all over the podium or peeing his pants the corporate media is likely to call it a win for Romney. President Obama may get through it brilliantly, but all romney has to do is get through it.

i mean, i hope i'm wrong. i hope the corporate media has a fact checker with a bell to ring every time romney tells a lie, but i'm not holding my breath.

BumRushDaShow

(129,381 posts)
12. It will all be up to how the Moderators handle it
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:47 PM
Sep 2012

and if you have crazies like Creepy Crawly and Bob Shitffer, it will be guaranteed to be skewed towards Rmoney. I fully expect more flag pin type equivalent nonsense. Lehrer is tossup.

livetohike

(22,157 posts)
16. I think so too. It's too late to try to appear moderate
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:24 PM
Sep 2012

The 47% video was the "nail in the coffin", imo. The ads the Obama campaign are producting are very good.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. After each Republican debate, a new 'frontrunner' emerged. So clearly Mitt did not
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:29 PM
Sep 2012

clean each of their clocks. He was not declared the winner of all of those debates. 999 won one of them, for the love of Mike, so a bunch of clowns is being generous.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
21. Huntsman and Gingrich were both better debaters
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:32 PM
Sep 2012

by a wide margin. Gingrich has lots of clever put downs, but is so immoral he disgusts Republicans.

frogmarch

(12,158 posts)
22. Romney will laugh at inappropriate times
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:42 PM
Sep 2012

during the debate, and he'll sweat a lot, just like Nixon did in the Kennedy-Nixon debate. Romney will look nervous and fidgety. President Obama will be cool, calm, and very collected.

Fifty years ago, on Sept. 26, 1960, John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon squared off in the first-ever televised general-election presidential debate. Within days, if not hours, the event gave rise to a mythology so well-known by now that it scarcely needs repeating. Handsome, dapper, poised, and articulate, Kennedy dispelled with his appearance any nagging worries that he might be too callow for the presidency. Clammy-faced, awkward, and plagued by his gloomy five-o'clock shadow, Nixon reinforced what he called "the Herblock image," in reference to his nemesis, the Washington Post cartoonist, who had already immortalized Nixon's menacing mug. As the story goes, the winner that night was not just Kennedy but the television image itself, which had, in a single stroke, demonstrated its newfound kingmaking power.

A widely told tale. But it's not quite correct.

There's no doubt that Kennedy looked better than Nixon that night. Wearing a dark suit and flashing his boyish smile, the junior senator from Massachusetts radiated charisma. Nixon, recovering from a knee infection and a cold, looked gaunt in his gray suit, which blended in with the walls, and sweat streaked his Lazy-Shave powder. "Fire the make-up man," Nixon's press aide Herb Klein was told by a supporter. "Everybody in this part of the country thinks Nixon is sick. Three doctors agreed he looked as if he had just suffered a coronary." Henry Cabot Lodge, Nixon's running mate, supposedly said, "That son of a bitch just cost us the election."


More: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2010/09/rewinding_the_kennedynixon_debates.html

It's bound to be deja vu all over again when Romney tries to outdo Pres. Obama. That's what I think, anyway.
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