This is exactly how I feel about all of this. Please watch.

[themaguffin]

I have felt even before Covid that if something caused his death, he would be a martyr etc.

He. Must. Be. Voted. Out.

Trumpism must be rejected at the polls.

Beau of the Fifth Column says it well on his youtube channel...

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[Hortensis]

1. Oh, yes: We badly need trumpism to be rejected big time at the polls.

If not discouraged, these resurgent-fascism types would grieve righteously for the loss of their great leader, decide the Democrats murdered him, and look for a new, more competent one. And we know the various dangerous and traitorous right factions always have plenty of those eager for power.

My hope is that Trump gets good and sick and has a miserable recovery, enough to reveal him to be the loser fool he really is -- and to spotlight his, and the congressional Republicans', depraved indifference to the lives of all Americans. Now, right before the election, is a great time for it.

Fingers crossed for America.

[FM123]

2. I too want trump to survive this, but

to be left in a diminished state so there is no "big, strong, leader" for his supporters to mythologize and worship (and fight for) when he loses the election.

[themaguffin]

4. that too!

[better]

3. I'm right there with him.

I too want to see Trump pay for his crimes and indecency, but even MORE important than the groups he has marginalized and targeted seeing their fellow Americans RESOUNDINGLY reject him, his policies, and those who enabled him...

For the sake of democracy ITSELF, he must not only suffer defeat, but TRIAL.

Make no mistake, if Trump's brazen defiance of not only basic decency but of LAW, in naked self-interest and anamice, is not met with HARSH consequences, that is the permanent end of America's greatness, not merely the suspension of it we have suffered these last four years.

[SlogginThroughIt]

5. And if it isn't? By cheat or by electoral BS?