Lincoln's Bible: I'm going to tell you a true story now about the capabilities of our intelligence..

[Nevilledog]

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@LincolnsBible
I’m going to tell you a true story now about the capabilities of our intelligence agencies - & likely capability of the Kremlin’s, China, & others...
Decades ago, a sitting POTUS wanted to know the status of the Emperor of Japan, who was in hospital.
The request was as follows...

Rachel Maddow MSNBC
@maddow
The doctors just *cannot* Baghdad Bob their way through the president's active and ongoing hospitalization.

That smiling "He's not on oxygen right now" dance??

It's a *bad thing* for the US if the world knows reports on the president's condition can't be trusted.

Shameful.

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I’m going to tell you a true story now about the capabilities of our intelligence agencies - & likely capability of the Kremlin’s, China, & others...
Decades ago, a sitting POTUS wanted to know the status of the Emperor of Japan, who was in hospital.
The request was as follows...

2/ “Can you tell us when he’s going to die?”
“What do you mean, ‘when’?”
“We’d like to know the hour.”
“Um... okay.”

So, SIGINT did its thing. They tapped into the hospital’s systems - got all files, bloodwork, even the real time readings of the machines he was plugged into...

3/...ran it all through their best modules, and came up with a projection that nailed the Emperor’s time of death within a window of seconds.

This was in the late 1980s.
Imagine the capabilities now.

That our adversaries are getting accurate info on our President’s health...

4/... before our legislative leaders and the American people, is yet another grave threat to our national security that this wretched administration has wrought on us.

Damn them all.
Selfish, lying, bastard traitors.
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[Jim__]

1. If North Korea can keep Kim Jong Un's condition secret, surely we can keep Trump's secret.

After all, how's it any different?

[Boogiemack]

21. Don't you mean "the late Kim Jong Un?" nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. I doubt the anecdote & think if any part is true it was coincidence. You have a credible source?

[Nevilledog]

4. It's Lincoln's Bible's anecdote, not mine.

I thought it was interesting.

[sweetloukillbot]

6. I'm not responsible, I just shared it!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. And Lincoln's Bible is NOT a credible source. I like your posts. You don't usually pass bogus infor

You don't usually pass bogus information like this. Please don't.

False bogus incredible (not credible) information is not interesting. It is a disservice.

[Nevilledog]

12. I've found Lincoln's Bible to be a very credible source.

Her followers include: Glenn Kirschner, Peter Strzok, Jill Wine-Banks, Jon Cooper, Adam Parkhomenko, Andrew Laufner, Daniel Goldman, Josh Campbell, Eric Garland, Scott Dworkin, Rick Wilson, Frank Figliuzzi, John Avlon, Jenna McLaughlin and Greg Olear. (I just listed some of her "verified" followers)

I'm not sure I understand why the idea that our enemies would have an interest in knowing the actual condition of our president and that they would resort to hacking, etc. to get that info, is unreasonable. We don't believe the information we're getting, why should they?

I'd be very interested to hear why you believe Lincoln's Bible is giving "false, bogus (not credible) information".

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Now you are mischaracterizing my objection.

I do NOT object to "the idea that our enemies would have an interest in knowing the actual condition of our president and that they would resort to hacking, etc. to get that info".

Nothing I wrote suggests that I object to the idea they have an interest.

Do not try to stuff words in my mouth.

I did not object to that informed speculation. What I did object to was the OTHER PART: the anecdote. I wrote "ANECDOTE" (without caps).

What I do object to is the bogus idea that anyone can predict a death to within seconds even today, let alone the even more bogus idea that they could do it decades ago. That anecdote is what I think is false bogus not credible information.

For my part I'm sorry I wasn't more explicit about that point, but I thought it was obvious when I wrote "anecdote".

[Nevilledog]

14. I guess I was more focused on your views of Lincoln's Bible as a source.

The anecdote is an anecdote.... Certainly treat it as you want. The takeaway to me was related to the idea that our enemies are no doubt getting better info on Trump's condition than our own government officials.

I guess we process things differently because the "anecdote" wasn't the part I found interesting.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Re: Russians et al knowing about tRump's real condition: so obvious I found that uninteresting

But it won't be by hacking into devices and running some super-duper whiz-bang death-predicting computer on the data, as the anecdote alleges.

It will be by intercepting emails, texts, phone calls, etc. of people discussing and sharing data.

[Nevilledog]

17. Hell, Trump probably signed a medical release for Putin...lol

Maybe we should find out who he has listed as Emergency Contact.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. "Emergency Contact" LOL good one! . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Lincoln's Bible is credible about Russian Mafiya, but not US intelligence in Asia decades ago

Further, not about the capabilities of predicting death.

If death was predictable decades ago, as Lincoln's Bible alleges, the technology would have been deployed all across the country in hospitals and clinics and universities. It would have been strengthened and made inexpensive by now.

It has not.

https://gregolear.substack.com/p/bloody-mob-sht-an-interview-with
Lincoln's Bible

Here's some fiction labelled as fiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-Line

[Nevilledog]

18. Gotcha.

[sweetloukillbot]

5. Lincoln's Bible said it!

Can their be anything more trustworthy than Lincoln’s Bible??? /s

[moondust]

3. Of course

hospital information systems have presumably taken measures in recent years to try to prevent being hacked (again) by ransomware.

[brooklynite]

8. One might expect the US Government to apply a higher security standard.

[moondust]

11. Yes, a military hospital

information system would be expected to be more secure given the military's/government's legions of cyberwarfare specialists.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Bogus. But I think Kremlin has more accurate info than US people on tRump's condition now. nt

[niyad]

10. Many years ago,, there was some kind of issue with NORAD (precisely what, I don't remember).

There was a comment made about some coverage in the local fishwrap (which continues to be a waste o trees), that too much information was being given to Russia. A person in the IC said something along the lines of, "are you kidding? They probably have the blueprints". That was decades ago. Just imagine.

I have always assumed, sadly, that other countries' intelligence services know more about what goes on here than most of our citizens. I assume the same with regard to our Intel services and other countries.

[stopdiggin]

20. Well, yes, but .....

It's a *bad thing* for the US if the world knows reports on the president's condition can't be trusted.

That is hopelessly naive, isn't it? It is a bad thing of course -- but was there anybody on this globe that thought they were getting true and accurate information -- now, or at some point in the past?

The media has every right to be holding these guys feet to the fire (in fact that's their job) -- but, these protestations of shock ("shock I tell you" ..) and indignation that the doctors are shielding and shading ... That's a fat joke.

[GeorgeGist]

22. Computer systems were much easier to hack ...

In the 80s.

[Nevilledog]

23. Hackers seem to be adaptable.