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The Lincoln Project, it just hit me... (Original Post) katusha Oct 2020 OP
yes steve2470 Oct 2020 #1
Until we win, then the knives will be out for us. we can do it Oct 2020 #2
I dunno. They have claimed they will not moonscape Oct 2020 #3
Advocating for the prosecution of criminals under color of law is one thing. Volaris Oct 2020 #4
Have you heard a peep out of them about AmyCovid Barrett? we can do it Oct 2020 #5
Actually, they did put out a statement very quickly: moonscape Oct 2020 #10
You should really comment on Moonscape's post #10 .... or will you be the one with crickets ? OnDoutside Oct 2020 #13
Hello?! Crickets referring to LP. we can do it Oct 2020 #14
They couldn't have been more clear, but you want them to get personal about Barrett because ..... ? OnDoutside Oct 2020 #17
Where is her name mentioned? we can do it Oct 2020 #18
Why is that important to you ? OnDoutside Oct 2020 #19
That was my original question, if you had bothered to read. we can do it Oct 2020 #20
I think you just want to give them a kicking no matter what good work they've done over the last OnDoutside Oct 2020 #21
Again try reading. I said I welcome their help. we can do it Oct 2020 #22
She's probably better qualified than Kavanaugh and Gorsuch, but that isn't the argument. It's that OnDoutside Oct 2020 #23
Did you happen to notice the date on LP tweet? September 19. we can do it Oct 2020 #24
I'm prepared for that, on the other hand... Silent3 Oct 2020 #7
They are honorable and decent Americans calguy Oct 2020 #6
Ha! we can do it Oct 2020 #8
Some of what this article says about the Lincoln Project is not true. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2020 #12
True, and it is an opinion piece. we can do it Oct 2020 #15
I trust them as long as they're going after the Repubs who have supported and enabled Trump. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2020 #16
They have never attacked Democrats in any of their podcasts and Tweets steve2470 Oct 2020 #9
as individuals in the past they have made some really nasty attack ads against dems But mucifer Oct 2020 #11

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
1. yes
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 04:17 PM
Oct 2020

I have listened to many of their podcasts and read many of their tweets, and they are the most decent Republicans you can hope for. I could almost see them as "conservative" Democrats.

moonscape

(4,674 posts)
3. I dunno. They have claimed they will not
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 04:33 PM
Oct 2020

be finished until all the Trumpite enablers go down as well.

Their focus may be multi-faceted and still beneficial.

Volaris

(10,275 posts)
4. Advocating for the prosecution of criminals under color of law is one thing.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 04:38 PM
Oct 2020

Not shiving us for supporting our own party policy platforms is quite another. And those same knives will have been very freshly sharpened on the bones of Trumpers.

We need to be aware, we need to be careful, and we need to be READY.

we can do it

(12,205 posts)
5. Have you heard a peep out of them about AmyCovid Barrett?
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 04:38 PM
Oct 2020

Crickets.....
It’s because they are still greedy repubes worried there will be no country left to exploit with four more years of drump.

Useful for now.

moonscape

(4,674 posts)
10. Actually, they did put out a statement very quickly:
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 05:19 PM
Oct 2020




And then Schmidt specifically, in addition to blasting Graham,:




Restraint from the unprincipled, hypocritical and divisive act of Majoritarianism that McConnell is advancing. McConnell bears great responsibility for breaking the institution of the Senate. His acts will break the Supreme Court by shattering the faith and belief of the 5/
American people in the fairness and equity of the system. Just because you can do something doesn’t meant it should be done. McConnell’s abuse of power will have massive negative consequences. It will be interesting to watch how many Republican Senators will take that final 6/
Ignominious step and become fully Members of a rubber stamp Politburo. How many will insist on a process of confirmation that isn’t rushed hackneyed, and simply a Potemkin side act in Trump’s malignant reality show Presidency? Soon we will find out. It is all on the line.

we can do it

(12,205 posts)
14. Hello?! Crickets referring to LP.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:21 PM
Oct 2020

And excuse me I do not sit on my phone in case someone might say something.

LP has not brought one thing up about ACB, the above is about nominating “someone” not her specifically.

we can do it

(12,205 posts)
20. That was my original question, if you had bothered to read.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:44 PM
Oct 2020

It matters because she is exactly the kind of RWNJ repubs have been stuffing the courts with. Her crazy cult would be any easy target for one if they opposed her.

OnDoutside

(19,982 posts)
21. I think you just want to give them a kicking no matter what good work they've done over the last
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:52 PM
Oct 2020

year, and that's really on you. If it wasn't ACB, I have little doubt it would be something else.

OnDoutside

(19,982 posts)
23. She's probably better qualified than Kavanaugh and Gorsuch, but that isn't the argument. It's that
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:00 PM
Oct 2020

McConnell is a hypocritical scumbag in nominating an RBG replacement before a new President is sworn in. That's the argument, which is why TLP are taking that line.

Silent3

(15,304 posts)
7. I'm prepared for that, on the other hand...
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 04:43 PM
Oct 2020

...I do think some of the Lincoln Project people have learned a lesson about the awful decline the Republican party has taken, and are smart enough to realize that simply returning to the exact pre-Trump state of the Republican party wouldn't fix anything at all, it would just be a set-up for the next Trump-like figure to arise.

I'm certain that whatever Republican party rises from the ashes of Trumpism, even under the auspices of the Lincoln Project, won't be a party I'd be voting for. However, the country does need a sane, rational opposition party that does its best to honorably represent a lot of Americans who don't, and won't ever, think like Democrats.

As much as I'd love for the whole country to go the direction of what the best of the Democratic party has to offer, that wouldn't be small-d democracy, that would be one-party rule that we just happen to like a lot.

calguy

(5,337 posts)
6. They are honorable and decent Americans
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 04:43 PM
Oct 2020

Disagreeing with us on traditional issues does not make them evil in the past. The Republican party crossed a line they would not cross themselves. Instead of remaining silent for the good of the party the have spoken out and taking bold action against their own party for the good of the party. That is true American patriotism in my mind.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,737 posts)
12. Some of what this article says about the Lincoln Project is not true.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 05:28 PM
Oct 2020

This stands out as false:

At no point did anyone in leadership acknowledge their direct wrongdoing nor their role in the rise of Trumpism. To do so would be to admit fault, and it’s hard to admit fault when you’re selling the brand of patriotic heroism.

I have read their acknowledgement of what they did to help Trumpism rise. They did apologize for that and are now making amends.

So. There is that.

we can do it

(12,205 posts)
15. True, and it is an opinion piece.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:23 PM
Oct 2020

Agree with most of it though.

Don’t get me wrong, I do welcome their help. Just don’t trust them after this election.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,737 posts)
16. I trust them as long as they're going after the Repubs who have supported and enabled Trump.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:27 PM
Oct 2020

They have stated that they will not rest until those folks are removed from public office.

Then we shall see what happens.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
9. They have never attacked Democrats in any of their podcasts and Tweets
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 04:51 PM
Oct 2020

They might say "oh I won't agree with Biden on everything" but that's about as negative as it gets. They really are decent patriotic Americans, to my mind. They have all been "excommunicated" from the Republican Party now, and will have to either be Democrats, independents or form a new Republican Party. They can't just go back to a TrumpistRepublican Party.

If they form a somewhat-ethical NewRepublican Party and oppose us with the old political rules in place, I'm fine with that. If they go all Newt Gingrich or McConnell on us, then fuck them and I will regret anything nice I have ever said about them.

mucifer

(23,576 posts)
11. as individuals in the past they have made some really nasty attack ads against dems But
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 05:21 PM
Oct 2020

we need EVERY vote we can get and they say they want to rebuild the country with us. So I appreciate their help

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