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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 07:27 PM Oct 2020

It's impossible to pin down info. Today Fareed Zakaria interviewed...

.. an expert who said the rapid tests aren't perfect because 3 out of 100 people will test negative when they are positive. But I've heard forever that the rapid tests are only 85% reliable.

Why the discrepancy?

Can anyone reconcile these "facts?"

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It's impossible to pin down info. Today Fareed Zakaria interviewed... (Original Post) LAS14 Oct 2020 OP
I think he just make a factor-of-ten error Silent3 Oct 2020 #1
False positive is lower - but non-zero Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #3
Others will test positive when they're negative? soothsayer Oct 2020 #2
I don't think so. Another way to state what I've heard is.... LAS14 Oct 2020 #4
I really wish people would banish the word "reliability" when talking about test accuracy Silent3 Oct 2020 #5
Yes. That's a false positive. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #9
It changes genxlib Oct 2020 #6
Thanks! Interesting. nt LAS14 Oct 2020 #8
The reliability is just calculated differently I assume BootinUp Oct 2020 #7
I think what he's trying to say is ... GeorgeGist Oct 2020 #10

Silent3

(15,280 posts)
1. I think he just make a factor-of-ten error
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 07:28 PM
Oct 2020

Because 30% is the false-negative rate I've heard from everywhere else.

I have yet to hear what the false-positive rate is.

Ms. Toad

(34,099 posts)
3. False positive is lower - but non-zero
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 07:30 PM
Oct 2020

Just ask DeWine, who got out of a visit with the president with a false-positive.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
4. I don't think so. Another way to state what I've heard is....
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 07:31 PM
Oct 2020

... 85% reliable and 97% reliable. That's also the language experts have been using.

Silent3

(15,280 posts)
5. I really wish people would banish the word "reliability" when talking about test accuracy
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 07:35 PM
Oct 2020

Without false-negative and false-positive being clearly distinguished from each other, "reliability" is a damn near useless concept.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
9. Yes. That's a false positive.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 07:45 PM
Oct 2020

Different tests have different numbers of false negatives and false positives. I'm not sure the information on the precise reliability of any of the tests is actually available, although I have not tried to search for it on line.

genxlib

(5,542 posts)
6. It changes
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 07:40 PM
Oct 2020

Depending on where the patient is in the cycle. Higher false negatives before symptoms but that error rate falls after symptoms set in. That is why it isn’t really suitable for screening.

GeorgeGist

(25,323 posts)
10. I think what he's trying to say is ...
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 08:06 PM
Oct 2020

If you test 100 people who are known to be positive
3 will test negative with the rapid test.

Those are called 'false negatives'.

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