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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:14 PM Oct 2020

Missed opportunity if Harris doesn't focus on entire population

Last edited Fri Oct 9, 2020, 03:02 AM - Edit history (1)

Of course talk about the important issues of police brutality and racism but also broaden to address other issues that affect the entire population.

Would love to hear her talk about the US economy & business issues, climate change, environmental issues. We must reach out to broaden coalition.

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Missed opportunity if Harris doesn't focus on entire population (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 OP
The problem is what will 12-year-old pence do Eliot Rosewater Oct 2020 #1
He's very good at diversion without missing a beat. That must be a low IQ trait Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #2
Ask any nine year old why they broke the lamp and watch how fast they DIVERT attention Eliot Rosewater Oct 2020 #10
Ummmm...COVID? COVID relief? The White House Plague Posse? COVID? lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #3
try listening to her bigtree Oct 2020 #4
Well she didn't so all good. Your angry tone is not helpful. This Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #19
it's annoying to come to a diverse internet community bigtree Oct 2020 #24
You made me think....way beyond my seemingly benign post which I should have Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #27
Laura, I love you...but I find this post disturbing. What make you think Harris Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #5
She didn't! Thought she was great!! Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #12
Harris knows to do this Sugarcoated Oct 2020 #6
She did great. Thought she won hands down. And she looked Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #17
Why do you believe that she would not speak to the entire population?? Sunsky Oct 2020 #7
Oh jeez. WAY overthinking it. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #13
No Sunsky Oct 2020 #21
Apologize if I hurt feelings. But, how are you supposed to talk about Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #25
What the fuck is this shit right here. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2020 #8
Great, analytical non-emotional comment!!! Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #14
Usually we wait until during or after the debate to slam the candidate greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #9
Usually political people look a all angles and don't get emotional. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #15
Oh my! greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #18
Who you must have to use that meme a lot huh. :) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #20
I'd like to see her point out the difference between shit and ice-cream. Duncan Grant Oct 2020 #11
Think there's a swath in the middle that could go either way Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #16
Here is an article irisblue Oct 2020 #22
Thank you. These are consumer and small biz focused issues. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #26
Another one irisblue Oct 2020 #23
"look at all angles" - keep doing that, free thinking, don't be bullied. UTUSN Oct 2020 #28
Sadly, dying embers of what was a good thing. Only thing that Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2020 #29
She talked about the economy and environment in the debate, of course. betsuni Oct 2020 #30

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
1. The problem is what will 12-year-old pence do
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:18 PM
Oct 2020

To completely distract from anything important

Mike Pence, a right wing religious radio talkshow host with an IQ of a nine-year-old

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
4. try listening to her
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:47 PM
Oct 2020

...and don't try and tell me she doesn't regularly cover ALL of those issues and more.

I don't know where you came up with the notion that she's has some singular focus on 'police brutality and racism.' Kamala Harris is one of the most comprehensive and encompassing legislators in the body. Check her record and check her speeches.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
24. it's annoying to come to a diverse internet community
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:49 PM
Oct 2020

...and have to deal with such limiting expectations for this black woman.

There's really no excuse for assuming she'd even consider pigeonholing herself with issues close to her personal interests. As attorney general she oversaw justice and safety for ALL California residents; prosecution of predatory banks, sexual assault, homicide, environmental protection, school safety, police accountability...

There are also the concerns and initiatives she's pursued as a U.S. Senator. It's not an insignificant effort, and there's an extensive record which is easily accessible.

There's no excuse at all.

Also, neither response was delivered with any anger at all, despite your view of my 'tone.'

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. You made me think....way beyond my seemingly benign post which I should have
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 01:00 AM
Oct 2020

prefaced by saying I had only heard Harris in interviews a handful of times and it was all I heard her talk about. Assume our goal was getting the middle and getting rid of the monster?

Work from home and have news on 24/7 in background. In my mind, she could have been a man, she could be purple - it wouldn't matter. It was all I had ever heard her talk about. I admit, I have never sought out position papers or additional info since she wasn't my first choice. But if I, a Dem with Dem in my DNA hadn't, what middle of the road schmuck had?

I know many in the business world (of which there are millions of humans affiliated with in some way..bad move imho for Dems to disparage big banks without thinking about this) who would be worried if there wasn't more umph given other issues like the economy. And not just what to do to help people (of course paramount)...but what are you going to do to keep things churning - macro level.

What you made me realize is that there is a huge gap between what non-minority Dems think and feel and what minorites feel. I hope there comes a day when it will be realized that all Dems + plus good minded people have already completely and automatically assimilated their pain and evolved to the point where it's a complete given. And things can be discussed without reprisal or need for wordsmithing.




Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
5. Laura, I love you...but I find this post disturbing. What make you think Harris
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:52 PM
Oct 2020

will only focus on racism,police etc. She will focus on questions that are asked of her...it is a debate after all. I have not read that this debate will focus on crime or the police or protests although there be a questions I suppose.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. She did great. Thought she won hands down. And she looked
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:20 PM
Oct 2020

So engaged and healthy compared to ghoul looking pence.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
7. Why do you believe that she would not speak to the entire population??
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:01 PM
Oct 2020

After all, isn't she running to be VP for all? Have you ever listened to Kamala? A black person can speak about broader issues you know. We are not so dense. This post just seems so stereotypical to me.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
21. No
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:27 PM
Oct 2020

Sometimes we have to be mindful of the impact of our words. Being dismissive will not change the feeling a sentiment like what was expressed in the OP can evoke. Why would anyone think she would only speak about black issues? I never heard anyone make that request of Biden.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Apologize if I hurt feelings. But, how are you supposed to talk about
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:03 PM
Oct 2020

stuff - discuss matters openly and without always having to watch the way you say it.

I would never want to hurt anyone's feelings in a million years. But this is a political forum isn't it? Big picture thinking, analysis?

Duncan Grant

(8,280 posts)
11. I'd like to see her point out the difference between shit and ice-cream.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:43 PM
Oct 2020

My wish? She should mercilessly prosecute a case against the trump administration. There are no undecided voters at this point. She should kick ass and take names.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. Think there's a swath in the middle that could go either way
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:19 PM
Oct 2020

Business focused people. Apolitical. Their #1 focus is the economy. This us what drives them. Know many many people like this...since in finance

irisblue

(33,018 posts)
22. Here is an article
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:38 PM
Oct 2020
https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a33966807/kamala-harris-stance-on-economy/

Where Kamala Harris Stands on the Economy


snip... (FYI: We've also put together guides to Harris' positions on healthcare, climate change, guns, abortion, and more.)



snip..."Harris has put her money where her mouth is, so to speak: She's either proposed or supported a range of economic supports for individuals and small businesses particularly impacted by COVID-19, like monetary relief for struggling families, banning evictions and foreclosures, small business grants, and the COVID-19 Racial and Ethnic Disparities Task Force Act"


more at source.

irisblue

(33,018 posts)
23. Another one
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:42 PM
Oct 2020

Source-https://grist.org/justice/exclusive-kamala-harris-to-introduce-comprehensive-environmental-justice-bill-in-senate/


Snip-"Exclusive: Kamala Harris to introduce comprehensive environmental justice bill in Senate
By Yvette Cabrera on Jul 30, 2020

Fifteen years ago, Kamala Harris — San Francisco’s District Attorney at the time — created an environmental justice unit in her office. The goal was to go after the perpetrators of environmental crimes that were hurting some of the city’s poorest residents.

The state attorney general’s office had emphasized the need for state and local law enforcement to step up because of a void left by federal authorities in the Bush administration who were busy rolling back environmental protections. “One of the best tools out there to go after polluters is to go after them on a criminal basis,” a spokesperson for then–State Attorney General Bill Lockyer told SFGate in 2005. Across the country, communities burdened by pollution and contamination have been calling for that type of accountability at the federal level for decades."

More at article

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. Sadly, dying embers of what was a good thing. Only thing that
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 01:32 AM
Oct 2020

kept me hopeful through bush/cheney lying and creating a fake war where hundreds of thousands of human beings died. Or when bush called his brother Jeb and miraculously went ahead in Florida in 2004 despite a Kerry lead in election eve.

All good things must pass UTUSN


betsuni

(25,592 posts)
30. She talked about the economy and environment in the debate, of course.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 01:57 AM
Oct 2020

Harris is often asked about police brutality and racism in interviews because of her career as a prosecutor. That's her area of expertise.

This comes off as an "identity politics" accusation. The myth that Democrats have no progressive economic or environmental policies and only care about social justice.

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