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superpatriotman

(6,252 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:39 PM Oct 2020

USPS Worker in NJ Arrested for Allegedly Dumping Mail, Including Election Ballots

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/usps-worker-in-nj-arrested-for-allegedly-dumping-mail-including-election-ballots/2656666/

According to court documents, roughly 1,875 pieces of mail – including 627 pieces of first class, 873 pieces of standard class, two pieces of certified mail, 99 general election ballots destined for residents in West Orange, and 276 campaign flyers from local candidates for West Orange Town Council and Board of Education – were recovered from dumpsters in North Arlington and West Orange on Oct. 2 and Oct. 5.

The intended destination for the ballots and campaign flyers are heavily Democratic areas.
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USPS Worker in NJ Arrested for Allegedly Dumping Mail, Including Election Ballots (Original Post) superpatriotman Oct 2020 OP
Happy to hear he was caught! Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #1
Gee, I can't imagine where he got the idea from... hlthe2b Oct 2020 #2
Trump will be dead before this clown gets out of a Federal lockup Bengus81 Oct 2020 #3
Must of been Rebl2 Oct 2020 #19
SMFH Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #4
Thank goodness he was caught! I hope he was the only one doing this. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2020 #5
Good. But this reminds me...about a month ago there was a mail dumping Tanuki Oct 2020 #6
USPS Informed Delivery -- You get to see images of every piece of mail you should be receiving. TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #7
There's also a box to mark stating you never received that mail piece Bengus81 Oct 2020 #9
I clicked on that and the next day my mailman apologized. The postmaster came down on him hard. TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #12
I've only used it once to get mail re-started Bengus81 Oct 2020 #21
A feature that is thwarted without automated sorting machines...... Chakaconcarne Oct 2020 #17
Mine has been showing only about marybourg Oct 2020 #24
Is it a federal crime? central scrutinizer Oct 2020 #8
USPS Informed Delivery is Great! rustysgurl Oct 2020 #10
Doesn't really sound like a politically-motivated crime SCantiGOP Oct 2020 #11
have to agree. probably not "political" at all. stopdiggin Oct 2020 #13
They usually just throw away the junk mail SCantiGOP Oct 2020 #15
post I responded to mentioned "criminally lazy" stopdiggin Oct 2020 #27
I HOPE it wasn't a partisan postal worker. calimary Oct 2020 #25
you'll note that a very small percentage stopdiggin Oct 2020 #28
'Fraid I'm a little emotionally jumpy these days. calimary Oct 2020 #30
I think we can all empathize stopdiggin Oct 2020 #32
this is what scared me about mail-in voting OriginalGeek Oct 2020 #14
Check with your local election office. We have basically a "delivery confirmation" on our ballots Bengus81 Oct 2020 #22
"The recovered mail was placed back into the mail stream for delivery to its intended recipients" thesquanderer Oct 2020 #16
Sounds like a rogue worker cutting corners Eid Ma Clack Shaw Oct 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author jorgevlorgan Oct 2020 #20
OMG. yardwork Oct 2020 #23
Trump will pardon him. yellowcanine Oct 2020 #26
Medal of Freedumb spanone Oct 2020 #29
Doh! That guy's in it knee deep. I wonder if thought Trump would pardon him. C Moon Oct 2020 #31

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
2. Gee, I can't imagine where he got the idea from...
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:41 PM
Oct 2020


So did Henrico County, (Richmond, VA) find the mail stolen from the three boxes last weekend? Anyone know

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
3. Trump will be dead before this clown gets out of a Federal lockup
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:41 PM
Oct 2020

Have fun...........

"The intended destination for the ballots and campaign flyers are heavily Democratic areas."

Rebl2

(13,539 posts)
19. Must of been
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:03 PM
Oct 2020

a republican. My husband worked at the post office processing center in a large city for over thirty years and many of the people he worked with were republicans. He finally retired and is so happy to not have to listen to their idiocy and lunatic conspiracy theories five days a week!!!

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
6. Good. But this reminds me...about a month ago there was a mail dumping
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:45 PM
Oct 2020

incident in Glendale, Ca. I never saw any follow-up or reports of arrest. Does anyone know what happened?

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
7. USPS Informed Delivery -- You get to see images of every piece of mail you should be receiving.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:46 PM
Oct 2020

.

This way you know something's missing.

That's probably how this guy was caught. Someone called the postmaster asking for their lost ballot.

It could have also been the certified letter recipients.

.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
12. I clicked on that and the next day my mailman apologized. The postmaster came down on him hard.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:07 PM
Oct 2020

.

If you have a good rapport with your postal worker, talk to them first. I felt bad afterwards.

My mailman says they really look at those numbers, and want to see it zero.

.

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
21. I've only used it once to get mail re-started
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:16 PM
Oct 2020

Even though we had a mail hold with a clear date to resume they never did. So a day or so later I just clicked on stuff I'd never received and it showed up the next day.

Chakaconcarne

(2,460 posts)
17. A feature that is thwarted without automated sorting machines......
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:00 PM
Oct 2020

Informed Delivery® by USPS®
Digitally preview your mail and manage your packages scheduled to arrive soon! Informed Delivery allows you to view greyscale images of the exterior, address side of letter-sized mailpieces and track packages in one convenient location.*

* Images are only provided for letter-sized mailpieces that are processed through USPS' automated equipment

rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
10. USPS Informed Delivery is Great!
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:54 PM
Oct 2020

It's free, and we see every day what to expect in our mailbox. There have been a few instances where something didn't arrive, and a quick call solved the issue (for items much less important than ballots, certified mail, etc.).

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
11. Doesn't really sound like a politically-motivated crime
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:54 PM
Oct 2020

Sounds more like a criminally lazy PO worker who wanted to lighten his load.

stopdiggin

(11,336 posts)
13. have to agree. probably not "political" at all.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:50 PM
Oct 2020

And -- there have been (fortunately pretty infrequent) incidents similar to this down through the years. Upside -- with mail tracking (and other system checks) it's getting harder and harder to get away with.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
15. They usually just throw away the junk mail
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:32 PM
Oct 2020

But this person dumped certified letters. Since those are closely tracked, that probably means a good chance of getting caught.

stopdiggin

(11,336 posts)
27. post I responded to mentioned "criminally lazy"
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 12:10 AM
Oct 2020

and you and I would tack on "relatively stupid" -- and not terribly concerned with keeping the job.

stopdiggin

(11,336 posts)
28. you'll note that a very small percentage
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 12:14 AM
Oct 2020

of the dumped mail was politically oriented. And an even small fraction actual ballots.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
30. 'Fraid I'm a little emotionally jumpy these days.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 02:15 AM
Oct 2020

There's a lot, every week, that raises the hair on the back of my neck. Every doggone week!

stopdiggin

(11,336 posts)
32. I think we can all empathize
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 02:24 PM
Oct 2020

these are surely "jumpy" times.
The whole USPS/voting thing bothers me a little bit -- specifically because I would expect any machinations and skullduggery against the election (if indeed it is happening) to be the work of management and executive level actions. Why on earth would we be imagining a bunch of union shop guys running around trying to sabotage the vote -- and elect Donald Trump? And, by so doing, further empower a party that has been attempting to GUT the Post Office for the last 30 years? Just doesn't seem very likely on the face of it. In fact, it defies credibility! Hammer DeJoy and his political lackeys all you want, but -- the guy/gal that delivers your mail every day is NOT trying to steal your ballot!

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
22. Check with your local election office. We have basically a "delivery confirmation" on our ballots
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:21 PM
Oct 2020

where I live done by the County. So I put it in the box at the airport in the afternoon and it should show as received the next day.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
16. "The recovered mail was placed back into the mail stream for delivery to its intended recipients"
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:56 PM
Oct 2020

Yes, especially in these days of covid, I'd be just thrilled to receive my mail from out of a dumpster. I hope they at least put those recovered pieces inside additional envelopes before integrating them into the rest of the "mail stream."

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
18. Sounds like a rogue worker cutting corners
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:02 PM
Oct 2020

Mail dumping occasionally occurs election or no election. You don’t dump almost 2000 pieces of mail to get rid of 99 ballots.

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