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Last edited Fri Oct 9, 2020, 04:35 AM - Edit history (1)
The next time someone asks Biden that question, this is what he should say:
"You're asking this because you're worried about the integrity of our courts, but there is irony stuck between the teeth of your concerns. You weren't worried about protecting the integrity of our courts when you unconstitutionally blocked Merrick Garland for nearly a year; you weren't worried about protecting the integrity of our courts when you removed the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees, and you sure as hell weren't worried about the integrity of our courts when you prevented a rightfully sitting president from appointing 105 justices your constituents were entitled to.
But now... NOW, you want to talk about the court's integrity? The only court you care about is the court of public opinion and how you can obfuscate and manipulate compassionate Americans into voting for an anti-gay, anti-woman agenda they don't agree with.
You don't care about our court's integrity, but I do. I want a court that represents both sides of this country, balances the scales of justice for all, and is blind to politics. I plan to do everything in my power to restore the integrity you ripped from the throat of this court, and if that means supporting reasonable reforms backed by the majority of my fellow citizens so be it.
I will not "pack the court" for the left, but what I will do is remove the boulder of partisanship you've placed on the shoulders of Lady Justice. I will make sure our courts value democracy over theocracy, and I will institute reforms to insure the Supreme Court will never again have the pockets of its dignity picked by the likes of you."
Answering "yes" would help Biden, not hurt him.
LakeArenal
(28,820 posts)Reps pack your way, Dems pack our way.
Boulder or bolder?
kag
(4,079 posts)And it should be "boulder". "Bolder" is an adjective: more bold. A boulder is a big rock.
(I live just outside of Boulder, CO where we have--or did until the pandemic--a yearly 10k called the "Bolder Boulder." )
musicblind
(4,484 posts)I wrote that rant on my phone using Swype, and I tend towards typos when texting while mad lol
Sogo
(4,986 posts)Did you write that?
Bravo!
(....and I agree that it should be "boulder.)
musicblind
(4,484 posts)Part of me always wished I could grow up to be a speech writer lol
AnnaLee
(1,040 posts)Nothing has happened. Support from the people will only come when they realize what they are losing by doing nothing. That is unfortunate. The demand to do this MUST come from the people or else the Supreme Court as an independent body will be lost forever in a sea of expansions as various different ideologies win power.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Both of our candidates have blown gift opportunities to remind voters what happened in 2016 and why it makes Barretts confirmation unacceptable. Not only that, Barrett herself went on the record during the Garland non-process to say that his nomination represented a shift in the balance of power of the Court, making it all the more unacceptable (her words) in an election year.
Instead of making these points, our ticket is somehow convinced that talking about Abraham Lincoln in 1864 is a better way to go. Ok.
diva77
(7,643 posts)packed with more judges like the wingnuts Dump/Turtle have been ramming in.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)imo, so there'd be less time for him to be in the hot seat.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)But, Trump and Pence dont get to ask the questions. They are the ones that keep bringing this up. And their blithering insistence for their question to be answered hints at their desperation.
Its a bogus question, with no foundation in reality. Kind of a straw man...they bring up some out of context issue, imply something underhanded, and use any answer to hit at their opponent. Theyre trying to get the Democratic candidate to produce a sound bite they can use in their dwindling ad buys.
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)Courts have ALREADY been packed by Mitch McConnell, Donald Trump and Senate Republicans who have spent the last three years packing our courts, including the US Supreme Court, with dangerous extremists in lifetime appointments.
Mitch McConnell, Senate Republicans, Trump and Pence are PROJECTING their own dirty court-packing operation, which they've been carrying out for THREE YEARS, onto Democrats. Republicans have appointed THREE extremist USSC justices in as many years:
ONE was a STOLEN seat from Merrick Garland who wasn't even given the respect of meetings with Republican senators or a confirmation hearing;
Yet another seat was given up under a dirty backroom deal (Kennedy) with Donald Trump;
And the third is being RAMMED through (in a form of judicial rape) against the deathbed wishes of a beloved deceased justice and against Republicans' own rules from 2016 when Mitch McConnell refused to confirm Merrick Garland leaving the court with only 8 justices for a YEAR.
Democrats may have to restore & rebalance the courts due to REPUBLICAN court-packing that they THEMSELVES have carried out for the past THREE YEARS. Republicans should stop projecting their court-packing guilt onto Democrats. Democrats didn't pack the courts, REPUBLICANS have.
Democrats have an obligation to restore integrity and balance to our court system so that it isn't crushed under the weight of the dump truck of extremist nominees confirmed by Republicans in the past three years.
Republicans packed our courts, especially the Supreme Court. Now, Democrats have an obligation to UNpack it so that our justice system works as intended.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)"You'll just have to wait and see."
It works for Trump. Everyone shuts up and pretends to believe him, and then never asks him about it again.
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)I was gonna say, "We'll see what happens."
kairos12
(12,862 posts)Before the election, say no.
After the election, say yes.
Then say, elections have consequences.
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)NotANeocon
(423 posts)I assure you I will follow Republican precedent!
roamer65
(36,745 posts)It would require legislation to alter the composition of the SC.
I dont know why they dont clarify the exact process.
So his answer should be IF Congress passes it, I will give it consideration.
Thekaspervote
(32,774 posts)Judgeship.
Im sure he will reply when the time is right.
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)tirebiter
(2,537 posts)I saw him groping for something more polically universal
I mean FDR lost a lot of Democrats as well as Republicans when he proudly stated he would pack the court in 1937, iirc. It should have seemed reasonable, they kept finding New Deal legislation problematic and/or unconstitutional. Biden knows his history. Besides he couldnt get a whole sentence out due to Donnie Numbnuts throwing a fit.
Id recommend Joe saying, Actually Trump has packed the court, we are going to expand it a bit to achieve EQUALITY. Not traveling regularly in Joes circle he hasnt heard that yet from me just ye
c-rational
(2,593 posts)chowder66
(9,073 posts)musicblind
(4,484 posts)I'm an author, but not a famous one. I've published a couple of things years ago, and I'm currently querying (unsuccessfully) a novel about guns in America.
I've always dreamed about being a speechwriter or similar.
So, thank you. Reading your post made my night.
BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)Trump is stepping all over their messaging, so it's not getting a lot of oxygen on this. However on the chance that it does come down to having to give an answer, they need to have something ready.
Nasruddin
(754 posts)He wouldn't call it that, but ...
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)So no, time to full-court press when we win.
Do we need to talk about it? Maybe not. There is much to do before Jan. 2021
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)What is really needed is term limits as well as a larger court, so the replacement of any one justice is not as big a matter. The court should (IMHO) reflect the make-up of the country, about 1/3 progressive, 1/3 original constructionist, and 1/3 moderate.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Let's let the people speak on November 3rd, and we'll take it up accordingly. MMM-kay?
PufPuf23
(8,785 posts)that I need to know more about and see how conditions in the USA unfold before deciding to follow that course of action.
However, insert your very good 4 paragraphs before an absolute yes.
May sound weasel but better than a premature statement.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)Heard the clip on either CNN or MSNBC today. He said if he answered now, that's all reporters would write about. His campaign wants to lose focus on covid and Trump.