Bill Maher New Rules: Trump stealing the election.

[edhopper]

Start at 2:00.

This is some scary shit. Please don't make this about Maher, I know some hate him. But what he says here is a frightening prospect.
Does anyone not believe Trump will do anything to win, and his complicit Party will back him all the way?

[no_hypocrisy]

1. If Trump gets away with stealing this election,

there will never again be a free election in the U.S.

[edhopper]

2. I fear you are right.

[roamer65]

13. If Dump steals the election, there won't be a U.S.

[BigmanPigman]

3. When I was watching him I hoped

that tRump wasn't, it might give him an idea he hasn't thought of yet. I'm sure that Barr and tRump have Plans A-Z ready to go. I have read about the problem with the electors here on DU.

[Turin_C3PO]

6. I've read several articles

and the way I understand it, all fifty states have laws which require the electors to vote for the state's popular vote winner. They could try and change their state law, but all the worrisome states have a democratic governor who would veto such legislation. That's the way I understand it.

[BigmanPigman]

8. That seems too easy but I hope you're right.

[edhopper]

10. I don't think that is true

https://www.fairvote.org/faithless_elector_state_laws

And there is really nothing to stop a GOP controlled legislature from replacing the electors.

[Turin_C3PO]

14. Anything's possible but

I really don't think Trump will be able to overturn an overwhelming Biden win. Especially if it's called on election night.

[edhopper]

17. That might be true

but with absentee voting and several close States, it could not be decided election night.

Remember Trump is going after an electoral win, not a popular vote win.

[Turin_C3PO]

19. The only thing we can do

is fight it in court if lawsuits are brought. If he does manage to steal it, what will be necessary is something I can't post about on a public website.

[edhopper]

20. I am with you on that.

[marlakay]

25. If it goes to the courts

They have the top court...it is scary.

[obamanut2012]

22. Yes, it is true

Unless you know more than Laurence Tribe and the actual laws in states concerning electors.

[edhopper]

23. The website I posted

differs.
Could you post where Tribe said all States have laws that prevent this?

[thucythucy]

4. Hasn't this already happened once in our history?

In 1876 the majority of votes went to the Democratic candidate, but the Republicans struck a deal with the electors from southern states. Namely, we'll withdraw federal troops and allow the defeated confederate states to essentially ignore the 13th and 14th amendments and impose an amended form of slavery (Jim Crow) if you give us this election.

It's taken more than a century for the nation to recover from the consequences of that shady deal--consequences borne almost entirely by Black Americans. In fact we still haven't recovered, as even a cursory glimpse t today's headlines will show.

This is yet another reason why the courts are so important.

We are living in scary times indeed.

[roamer65]

15. That was the first large sellout of African Americans by the Repuke party.

[patricia92243]

5. This is the long way of saying "Get rid of the Electoral College."

[edhopper]

11. Yes

But in the mean time, they can use it to steal another election.

[H2O Man]

7. Interesting.

Insanity rules from the White House, and so I think that there is a fair chance that even after we crush Trump, he will deny and attempt to defy reality, and that Amendment 12 will come into play.

Recommended.

[Hoyt]

9. Sure it's "possible" and I love Gus. But, not worried about that happening. Just vote.

[edhopper]

12. We must prepare for them trying though.

[mitch96]

16. This is scary............ nt

[dixiechiken1]

18. Honestly, I think we must be vigilant about ALL the possibilities...

But in my heart, I think this is going to be a landslide. (From my lips to goddess' ears... 🤞 ) The vast majority of people are sick of the chaos. Doesn't mean they won't try but I don't think they'll get away with it.

Also, wasn't there a SCOTUS ruling against faithless electors? (Yeah, yeah, I know... still.)

[edhopper]

21. Past SCOTUS rulings are meaningless to this court.

[Silent3]

24. From what I understand, as long as there is a Democratic governor...

...even if there is a Republican legislature, and by law that legislature has previously conferred its Constitutional prerogative to select electors to the popular vote in their state, another law would have to be passed to reclaim that power, so unless the Republicans have a veto-proof majority, a Democratic governor can block such a new law.