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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSmerconish: There's a feeling this thing is getting away from Trump, It comes down to GOTV efforts
in key states:
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)the euphoria of victory and the shaming defeat Trump is already experiencing. An hopeless cause.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)1) The polling organizations have changed their model since 2016 to favor whites with no college education. In other words, the polls are already "skewed/unskewed" (depending on your opinion) in Trump's favor, so a 7-point lead for Biden would not be equivalent to a 7-point lead for Clinton in 2016.
2) Most of the polls he cites were post-"grab 'em by the pussy" and pre-Comeygate. Unless you see a similar "scandal" hitting Biden, it's doubtful you'll see the numbers tighten near the end by just enough to let Republicans benefit from their EC advantage.
Thekaspervote
(32,797 posts)I knew I had seen where Bidens lead was better especially in MI, PA, and WI and I was right.
According to RCP dotard led in all 3 states just b4 the election. smerconish is not usually a both siderism kinda guy, but this sure looks like it
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)The polling average in the battleground states showed a considerably-narrower lead for Clinton in '16 than Biden today. But, if you pick specific polls in isolation, you can paint a very different picture. Notice how Smerconish invariably leads with a poll showing HRC with a bigger lead than we have now, to get people's attention, but then the other polls he cites for the same state show a considerably larger lead this year. Gotta have that horse race, don'cha know?
Wounded Bear
(58,721 posts)assume it will be over 10 mill by Monday, though I guess they won't tally them over the weekend.
We could have a 3rd of the electorate already voted by Nov 1.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)https://www.wiscontext.org/how-and-where-trump-won-wisconsin-2016
This page explains it all. Low voter turnout killed Clinton.
doc03
(35,382 posts)say Democrats fall in love Republicans fall in line. Republicans in this area are more fired up than any time I can remember.
I just pray we have a overwhelming turnout.
doc03
(35,382 posts)I think unless there is an overwhelming turnout in
the urban areas Trump can win in PA and more so in Ohio.
The Trump supporters here are going to turn out and vote for him again. I am really worried he will pull it out again.
OrlandoDem2
(2,068 posts)brush
(53,894 posts)He's trying to make it seem that the polls are showing Biden's lead very similar to Clinton's in 2106 while not mentioning the 215,000 dead from covid, the millions unemployed because of trump's bungling response to it, the food lines, the newly spiking covid cases and deaths, and the fact that trump himself can't protect himself, his family and the White House from covid. Not to mention there won't be a Comey letter this year.
The repugs were hoping the Durham investigation would have the same effect but Barr himself has admit that there's nothing there and it won't be finished before the election.
Take this guy with multiple grains of salt.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)the confusion started by trump.